Felony Drug conviction living next to gun owner

If it's in the same house, I dont believe it is legal.. Im not positive, by any means, but a similar situation was discussed on another board I visit.. Seems a father had to remove his guns, in order for his "felony convicted" son to meet the terms for living in the same house.. Sorry, no real definitive help..

since they are in separate dwellings, I'd think it's legal for the felon. If the guns are in the other persons home, and he doesnt have a key, or any tye of access to them, then it sjhould be fine.

Now, if the felon and the home owner are relatives or friends, it might get iffy if someone wants to push the issue, by saying thier relationship and proximity may give the felon acces to the home where the guns are, without a key, or evidence that he can enter the home whenever he wants, I dont think it would fly even then.

If they they are not related or otherwise friends, and are just 2 people living and renting on a 3rd parties property, I think the felon is almost certainly legal, as I dont see how they could make the case that he has any access to the guns.

If I were the person renting the house, I would be taking my lease to an attorney for a good review. If I were renting a house, unless there was some very explicit language to the contrary in the lease I would expect that the yard (the "property") goes with the house and that I, not the owner, decides who may or may not park a camper there. And if I didn't have control over the surrounding property, most likely I would not have signed the lease.

What about the sewer hook-up? Does the camper have a sewer hook-up? If not, is that in compliance with zoning and sanitation laws? I'd look into that, too. If you make it as difficult as possible for the doper, maybe he'll move out.

I am aware of some one with a felony drug conviction living in a camper next to the house of a gun owner. The person has the permission of the person who owns the property, but not the permission of the person renting the home who is a gun owner.

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Normally one would think the onwer would not be able to give permission for such a thing, although I suppose the lease could be written in such a way as to allow it, especially if the leased premises is multifamily.

A lot of places don't allow people that kind of living arrangements so the camper might well be in violation of some city code.

Though i can't offer any legal advice, I would like to say that sounds like a pretty bad situation.

I would like however to inquire if you have a robust gun safe and if so is it bolted to the floor? I would hate to hear of any of your legal property being stolen to help support a terrible life style choice. Aside from that all of your firearms being well secured would likely prevent anyone aware of them from even trying anything stupid.

I have almost the same problem except my brother inlaw and father inlaw live in the house.If I bring a gun home and the cops find out then I go to jail for bringing a firearm into a felons residence and I then become a felon!He was only going to be here for a few months when he got out but that was almost 6 years ago.If I had known he was going to be here so long without helping out on the bills at all I could have sent him back to prison in the begining when he still had mandatory drug testing.

Have you thought about having a visit with the parole officer? I went to another state and stayed with a felon for two weeks. I talked to the guy’s parole officer about hunting and target shooting on the felon’s land. He was of the option as long as he, the felon, doesn’t touch any of the guns no problem. Even it is the felon’s land and house. He even wrote something about calling him on the back of his business card and gave it to me… in case the sheriff stopped in. When not in my or my wife’s hands I just locked the guns in the back of my car.

Talk to the parole officer. They have a lot of input.

This has morphed from a question of property law to one of family loyalties. This is one of many reasons why it is a bad idea to rent from or live with your in laws.

I suggest moving someplace that is truly your own, and not where you are forced into having a criminal live in your yard because of family issues.

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Clearly if you want all your own decisions made you need to move to a place that is completely your own.
I imagine the reason you are living there is because since it is your dad's it is quite cheap.
The situation benefits you, and it benefits the other individual also living on the property that you do not like.

You seem to be looking for advice to keep the benefits of the situation, but changing the living situation to your own terms without yourself being the property owner.

The dad is helping you, and is helping someone you do not want him to help with his own property. You have decided you wish to pick and choose how another man uses his property even when it is being done to your benefit.

I honestly can't see anything good coming from that attitude, and would advise you to move as well. Of course then you will have less for the same money, but you can choose how what is yours is used.

What about the sewer hook-up? Does the camper have a sewer hook-up? If not, is that in compliance with zoning and sanitation laws? I'd look into that, too. If you make it as difficult as possible for the doper, maybe he'll move out.

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Such violations if there is any would fine the property owner, in this case the dad who is letting everyone live on his property.
Personaly if I was the dad and he complained resulting in fines for me I would boot him out, not the brother. Or I may just rent the brother if they were unable to live in the camper because of the resulting complaints a room in the house and let the ungrateful complainer deal with that.
If either of them had a problem with it they could leave the financialy beneficial situation and get thier own place.




I can understand not wanting criminals around, and if they actualy are involved in drugs it will bring around a bad crowd, the type of crowd likely to burglarize or rob you if they get desperate.
I would not want them living there either, and would talk to the property owner about it.

If they are using your electricty as you say there is things you can buy that record the amount of electricity being used on various lines. Purchase one, and charge them for the electricty they use, and a percentage of any other utilities you pay for that they use like water etc.
They should pay thier share.
If having to pay thier fare share causes them to move, then the issue is resolved.
That is assuming it is you paying for the utilities and not the property owner allowing them to stay there.


If you want to decide how the property is used, get your own. Trying to find legal hassles you can create to choose how another man's property is used seems rather ungrateful.
I am all for talking to the owner and trying to change things using logical discussion. Trying to strong arm the property owner and looking for legal issues to get your way against the will of the person helping you with thier land just seems really ungrateful.
I wouldn't let someone with that mindset live on my land.

Move. NOW.

Most agencies frown on such close relationships with convicted felons. Your father in law and bro-in law's actions could possibly jepoardize your job, especially if you're currently in a probationary period. All it would take is a couple disturbacne calls to y'alls address to start you grief.

This slightly reminds me of the woman featured in a news commentary some time back, who was living with her father and demanded that he remove all his guns from the residence. (LA Times, IIRC - it's on here somewhere.) If it's not your property, you don't have the say-so.

Move. Best idea, hands down.

Take it from a person who deals with convicted felons everyday. You should MOVE if possible. The constant worrying of what's going on when your home and when your not will eventually get to you. Dealing with people at work, who constantly lie and try to manipulate others, then coming home to the same type of people, just won't make you feel comfortable.
A few years ago me and my family lived with my inlaws. My brother inlaw, a meth head, also lived there. Things started growing legs and running away from home, and nobody knew anything. Esspecially the druggie. (Thank God he couldn't get to my guns.) Even after he was outed by my father inlaw, I never felt comfortable with my stuff in the house. There's nothing better than knowing you have the final say in your own house.
Just my personal expierience to try to help you out. Hope everything works out for the better. Stay safe and Aloha.

First, a disclaimer: IANAL, and this is my understanding of the law; it is NOT legal advice!!!

Laws vary from state to state, but I believe so long as you do not knowingly or recklessly provide a firearm to a felon, you're OK. So if he has access - even theoretically - to your house, you need a safe.

Same thing if a felon lives in your house - so long as you have a place where the felon doesn't have access to the firearm, you're OK.

Now, the conditions of parole the felon lives under are an entirely different matter - if he violates them, HE can go back to the can. For all I know, they can put in a condition that he can't so much as enter a house where firearms exist, whether they're accessible of not.

I agree with halfbreed808, the stress of leaving your house every day to go to work knowing this person lives there by your guns will build up. Our next door neighbors son is a felon that just had to go back 90 days ago for a bench warrant for hitting his dad and not showing up, and child support. The day I found out about it, the safe room closet was made. His dad, a retired principal, used to have a key to feed the cat when we were away. I had all the locks re-keyed also. Distance yourself from problems waiting to happen.

lets see...dady owns the house..

lets drugies stay on the property.

you own guns.

you do not own the house.

move.




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If they served the time why would it matter? There are plenty of straightedge people who have guns that shouldn't. It's not like the con will be carrying your pistols around if you hide them and they don't even know they exist.

As others have said move.

In this age of the war on drugs who knows? I would look at what kind of a crime they where convicted of as in whacko meth head theif type or just had bad luck is all for minor stuff.