Comrade Joe's remarks about rifle owner...
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rickomatic
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Uncle Joe is not a gun owner's friend. Nuff said.....even before the lock.
Uncle Joe is not a gun owner's friend. Nuff said.....even before the lock.
ReadyontheRight
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All we need to know. And certainly relevent to RKBA.
zerosignal
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You just have to love how CNN accepted a question from a gun owner who likes to use the phrase "my baby" when referring to his gun.
In casual conversation, on these forums, or as a joke, many of us might use that phrase to refer to a gun we particularly like, but it has no place in a question posed to a political candidate during a debate on national television.
The guy simply gave Joe Biden ammunition to use against him and made the rest of use gun owners look like fools.
Joe Biden is about as anti-gun as they come and will not be getting my vote, but why give the man any ammunition?
In casual conversation, on these forums, or as a joke, many of us might use that phrase to refer to a gun we particularly like, but it has no place in a question posed to a political candidate during a debate on national television.
The guy simply gave Joe Biden ammunition to use against him and made the rest of use gun owners look like fools.
Joe Biden is about as anti-gun as they come and will not be getting my vote, but why give the man any ammunition?
Justin
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Biden's a raving anti-freedom collectivist. No one in their right mind could possibly vote for him.
NvTwist
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I call all my Firearms, "My Baby" : I take them out to play (practice), I feed them (ammo), I clean up after them (shells & targets), I bathe them (clean & oil) & I keep them safe from those seeking to do evil to society. (Locked up)
So Yeah They Are "My Babies".
I'm sure I'm not alone in this line of thought.
So Yeah They Are "My Babies".
I'm sure I'm not alone in this line of thought.
Treo
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I'm sorry but the gun owner was an absolute IDIOT ( yes I'm yelling) ! what was the point of showing that rifle on national television? If Sarah Brady herself went out looking for a stereotypical redneck dumbass gun owner she couldn't have done a better job picking the person to ask that question.
Dude looked unprofessional , he looked like some idiot mall ninja showing of his new toy.
I'd bet he didn't impress any one over the age of 13 and he probably made us a whole bunch of enemies
Dude looked unprofessional , he looked like some idiot mall ninja showing of his new toy.
I'd bet he didn't impress any one over the age of 13 and he probably made us a whole bunch of enemies
ColinthePilot
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That guy likely isn't mentally ill, but he sure isn't a good representative of gun owners. He did come off as a touch crazy, even though we can all sympathize. Maybe he should have held up a Mini-14 or an SKS since those guns also fell squarely under the AWB as semi-automatic "assault rifles" but don't give anti's and fence sitters the heebie jeebies like an EBR does.
ilcylic
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Are y'all just so anxious to stick a knife in someone's ribs that you don't care if it's one of our own?
Cut the guy some slack, and focus on the real enemy.
Cut the guy some slack, and focus on the real enemy.
Rubber_Duck
Member
Well, at least the governor of my state made sense. Of course, the gun owner in the video came off as being unprofessional. I agree that he isn't a good representative of gun owners.
zerosignal
Member
Ilcylic,
Sorry, but an enemy is an enemy. Some are more dangerous than others, but they all need to be dealt with.
I think pretty much everyone on here agrees how bad Biden is, but to me it's much worse when someone who is supposed to be on our side makes us look like fools.
I dislike turncoats much more than people who make it blatantly obvious they are against me. In reality, that gun owner is a much more subversive type of enemy because he masquerades as one of us.
Sorry, but an enemy is an enemy. Some are more dangerous than others, but they all need to be dealt with.
I think pretty much everyone on here agrees how bad Biden is, but to me it's much worse when someone who is supposed to be on our side makes us look like fools.
I dislike turncoats much more than people who make it blatantly obvious they are against me. In reality, that gun owner is a much more subversive type of enemy because he masquerades as one of us.
General Geoff
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So just because he used some silly nomenclature, means he's an enemy of the second amendment?
zerosignal
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Anyone who makes gun owners look like fools is, in my opinion, an enemy of gun rights.
Let me put it in another context. Lets say that someone owns a nice sports car and loves to drive. This person certainly enjoys the freedom he has to own and drive a vehicle.
Lets then say that this person goes out all the time and get speeding tickets?
Would you not call this a person an enemy of those who drive responsibly? Both he and I love to drive, but I do it responsibly.
Just because a person enjoys their freedom, does not mean they are exercising it in a proper manner. If you're going to go on the record and make statements supporting gun rights, why do it in an immature manner.
There is a time and place for statements such as he made, and that is not it.
Let me put it in another context. Lets say that someone owns a nice sports car and loves to drive. This person certainly enjoys the freedom he has to own and drive a vehicle.
Lets then say that this person goes out all the time and get speeding tickets?
Would you not call this a person an enemy of those who drive responsibly? Both he and I love to drive, but I do it responsibly.
Just because a person enjoys their freedom, does not mean they are exercising it in a proper manner. If you're going to go on the record and make statements supporting gun rights, why do it in an immature manner.
There is a time and place for statements such as he made, and that is not it.
ReadyontheRight
Member
What if that car owner called his car "my baby"?
That's basically all we're talking about here. The enemy is Joe Biden and his anti-gun policies, not a citizen SPEAKING.
Treo
member
This is my sense of that video, it may be wrong but it's the impression I got. He was doing ok up to the "are my babies safe" line. Then he whips out an M-16 ( Yes I am fully aware that it was an AR-15 but to the general anti/ neutral public that was an M-16. And to a bunch of them M-16 = machine gun) then the comment about "This is my baby" sounded just a little creepy and threatening to me and I'm a gun owner. Then the comment about how he bought it under the ban, we know what he meant but how many antis/ neutrals did? How many anti/neutrals saw that clip and walked away thinking that guy had an illegal machine gun?
That was not a good thing.
That was not a good thing.
General Geoff
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I'd consider that he's probably much safer on the roads than the average joe schmoe who speeds excessively in his economy car, because at least this person has a sports car that was designed to travel at such high speeds. Speeding is not necessarily irresponsible, just illegal. Big difference.
ReadyontheRight
Member
But in that analogy...this guy was not even speeding. He was just TALKING about his CAR!!!!!
Sheeeeeeesh! We sure are gun shy here in gun land.
zerosignal
Member
General Geoff,
So you're saying that doing something illegal (though possibly not irresponsible) is a good way to make a particular interest group look good in the oppositions eyes?
I'm all for breaking a law if it denies me my basic human rights, but that is no way to further your cause.
So you're saying that doing something illegal (though possibly not irresponsible) is a good way to make a particular interest group look good in the oppositions eyes?
I'm all for breaking a law if it denies me my basic human rights, but that is no way to further your cause.
General Geoff
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No, I'm saying it doesn't make you an enemy of your own enthusiast group. Unless you count folks like Treo. With friends like him, who needs enemies? I find the discord in this thread very depressing.
ReadyontheRight
Member
In what way did the guy Sen. Biden to whom wants to deny RKBA ever break the law? He just made a few statements and called his rifle his "baby".
Silly, but hopefully not a reason to deny basic human rights. Unless, of course, we vote poorly.
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