New Orleans prepares for Gustov!

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Guns and Gustav

We just got a call from Devline Rossell, a charter captain based out of Venice, Louisiana. He was shopping in New Orleans to get some supplies before the arrival of Gustav (currently listed as a tropical storm that has left at least 22 dead in the Caribbean) and reported that the item most in demand was not food, clothing or shelter.

“I just left a sporting goods store and you would think that the number-one selling item would be plywood or potable water or gasoline right now,” he said. “Apparently it is AR-15s and .223 ammo. I watched at least 20 people buy AR-15s and cases of .223.”

Can’t say I’m surprised. After the nightmare that was Katrina I think it would be unwise for anyone to assume the state, local or federal government could guarantee his or her personal safety during a natural disaster. Of course, I think it is foolish to assume that under any circumstance.

The AR buying spree demonstrates that people don’t think of it as an “assault weapon” but rather an arm that is ideally suited for self-defense, which it is. I also suspect that for some of the folks this is their first firearm. Goes to show that not only is there no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole but that there is no such thing as a gun-control advocate in one either.

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the comments on the page are...interesting.

EDIT: to clarify for some of you, this is not MY blog, it's something I read.
 
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Those are good citizens. They want to make sure law enforcment only confiscates high quality weapons. [/cynicism]

But it is good that more people will be prepared if it goes bad for them again.
 
“I just left a sporting goods store and you would think that the number-one selling item would be plywood or potable water or gasoline right now,” he said. “Apparently it is AR-15s and .223 ammo. I watched at least 20 people buy AR-15s and cases of .223.”
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I have to call bs on this :cuss:what store has 20 ar's on the shelf? Its possible but for all of them so sell while some one stood ther and watched?Also cases of 223 flying off the shelf:what:, with all the complaints of cant find 223 any where I have to wonder how a store has multiple cases to be sold?:scrutiny:...............Looks like thread lock is LIKELY HERE.

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I just left a sporting goods store and you would think that the number-one selling item would be plywood or potable water or gasoline right now,”
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didnt know sporting goods stores sold lumber and hardware what a load of crap!:banghead: just too many holes in this story for me!
 
I can think of at least three stores that stock at least 10 AR's at a time, on the shelves, and who knows how many in their rear stock rooms.


Good for the people buying! Hopefully Gustav won't make landfall in the states.

Thread lock IS likely though if this gets too political.
 
Yes, how about a gentle nudge back on topic.
So it took a major hurricaine and devestation still not completely calculated, and deaths, and evil acts....

but

It looks like some folks are WAKING THE HECK UP! At least it is a start.
 
Can we atleast get a diffrent source to confirm this stuff? news paper cnn msnbc local lews something?
 
I worked at a central texas Academy sports store not long ago, and at any given time they had at least 4 AR's on display, 5-8 more underneath the rack, and at least as many back in the stock room. Since I left, they are also stocking Beretta Storm carbines and SIG 556's. There are at least 3 or 4 of each in the store.
 
I hope this won't be another repeat of Katrina. If anyone here lives there my thoughts and prayers go out to you. Be safe.

Picard I do agree with you.


Mayor Nagin is a greedy know it all. They had better not take peoples guns away.
 
Local Gander Mountain has at least 20 S&W and Remington AR's on the shelf and plenty of ammo in .223.

IF you want to pay the price. So its not far fetched.

More of a concern is people buying Ar's who have no idea how they operate, how to clear a jam(cause most likely all the ammo being sold is Wolf) and the long range potential killing of the AR.

Paranoia and guns isn't a good mix.

I just left a sporting goods store and you would think that the number-one selling item would be plywood or potable water or gasoline right now,”
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I think the story is trying to say that it seems some people are more concerned with buying an AR and ammo over buying plywood, gas and water, not that they are trying to buy those items at a sporting goods store.

Just poor writing on the part of the blog entry.

left at least 22 dead in the Caribbean
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I wouldn't get too excited about that. You have to understand that a good percentage of Island residents in developed Islands live in homes no more secure than a good storage shed and that Islands like Haiti have mud, tin and cardboard huts for homes. If they have a home.

Most people only visit the Island resorts and have no idea how bad the residents live outside the resort perimiter.
 
They will never attempt to take arms away from citizens in the wake of a hurricane again in New Orleans or the surrounding parishes. Trust me on that one.

I am gearing up to roll out of the city by saturday. Hopefully we don't see another Katrina like disaster. We are all a bit more prepared this time around though.
 
They will never attempt to take arms away from citizens in the wake of a hurricane again in New Orleans or the surrounding parishes. Trust me on that one.
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I hope you are right but I sure don't trust Nagin & Co.

The comments on that page are priceless!
 
Best post:

"Katrina really showed that the State and Federal government is not your savior, or sometimes even your friend. When natural or man-made disasters happen, YOU are responsible for the safety and well-being of your family. No one else, you are responsible.

Many people learned that lesson."


No offense against everyone in government, obviously, but a very true statement nonetheless.



Jeffrey
 
They will never attempt to take arms away from citizens in the wake of a hurricane again in New Orleans or the surrounding parishes. Trust me on that one.
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I certainly hope thats true...never can tell though but its up to those who 'went through it before' to make sure it doesnt happen again (by legal means not a political or militia statement)
 
It is good that at least some people have learned a lesson. It always strikes me as humorous though that people wait to prepare until it is on their door. Instead of fortifying the house they are out looking for supplies where IF they find them they will often pay far more than normal.

I have to call bs on this what store has 20 ar's on the shelf?
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I don't know if it is a true story but it isn't uncommon to see good numbers of AR-15's here either. Two of the sporting good stores I go to have considerably more than 20 AR-15's displayed, I imagine they have more in the back.
 
Well, so far my preparation has been that I loaded my Single Six. So now I have a 22 revolver and a 357 revolver loaded.

If they come after me with the AR15s I'll be in trouble.

This morning on the radio, some fellow called in to ask about bus evacuations (the state is going to provide buses for evac this time) and his question was, was there anyone who could come pick up his neighbor - an elderly lady who can't get to the bus pickup place on her own. Wanted to know if the bus could come pick her up. It never occurred to him to take her himself. Several people called wanting to know if the Red Cross would be handing out debit cards for buying gas to evac.

And THAT attitude - more than Nagin, or anything else is the problem with New Orleans. I suspect there are other cities with similar problems.

I think people running around buying AR15s to prepare for the hurricane is a little wacky, but as I pointed out - there are a lot of wacky people in most big cities.
 
what store has 20 ar's on the shelf
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Both stores I prefer, MegaSports and G.A.T. Guns (Northern Illinois). MegaSports has racks and racks of them. If they had less than 50 in stock, I would be surprised.

But I admit, they might be a tad bigger than average. That's why they are not called PrettyBigSports or anything like that.
 
The real questions is how many AKs and 12ga shotties they had on the shelf. I am not sure that the AR would be a really good choice for defense of home in an urban setting. The AR may be more accurate but who cares? It is kind of hard to claim self defense when you pop someone at 300 yards. Also if someone is buying their first rifle and only have a few days to learn to use it, the AR is most likely a poor choice.

I call total BS on the article. Lets say you have 5 people working the counter (and that is being really nice). This guy sat there while each of them handled 4 customers? This includes the selection process, questions, the background check, the sale and packaging? BS!

This guy probably saw one person buying an AR and embelished the story to reinforce a pre-existing bias.
 
I call total BS on the article. Lets say you have 5 people working the counter (and that is being really nice). This guy sat there while each of them handled 4 customers? This includes the selection process, questions, the background check, the sale and packaging? BS!
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You ever watched the gun counter at Cabelas on a weekend?

I've spent 30 minutes wandering around and literally watched them sell a gun a minute. 8-10 people selling and 3 doing 4473's.

I believe it's possible, but only in a big store like that.
 
By the way, I just heard on the radio that Mayor Ray Nagin is in Denver rubbing elbows with the big spenders. May I suggest, "Ray, go home. It would look good if you got there before FEMA!"
 
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