Cavalry Arms Raid +150 Days

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If this is true, WHY is the NRA sitting this out?
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If so, it is probably for several reasons. First, the NRA has to be careful to back only the innocent. I believe Cav-Arms is innocent, but even they don't really know what they were suspected of doing or not doing, so it's hard to prove your innocence, even to a friend. Second, while outrageous, this is more of an industry issue than a "right of the people to KBA" kind of issue. The NRA, while large and often accused of being the "gun lobby" or the "gun industry lobby," is not an industry or trade organization. That would be the NSSF. I do not know whether the NSSF has stepped up (but see issue #1). This is probably a case where the "stepping up" has to be done by a large number of individuals like us and/or an "angel" who can afford to take a risk with a larger chunk of cash to keep Cav-Arms alive long enough to see the fight through.


It is not clear that their off site manufacturing waiver was at the core of the big raid/seizure. Last I had heard, that was believed to be a separate matter, and a case of the BATFE kicking while Cav-Arms was already down.
 
I did my part. I'd never seen one of these lowers in person before, so I wasn't sure if I'd really like it. After some time on the range with it, I probably won't be buying any more metal AR lowers.

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Im not suprised about the NRA, they are far from benevolent and are only selectivley pro gun. That being said they do some good but almost compromise as much as they fight!


I need some HGs for a couple ARs, Ill be looking at Cav Arms stuff and already donated some money shortly after this happened
 
Today is the 200th day since Cavalry Arms was raided. The ATF has yet to file any charges and is proceeding with civil asset forfeiture.

They also have med kits, and other non-AR, non-shotgun stuff that I can't recall right now.
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And good deals on Surefire flashlights if they have any left. They also market a line of softside gun cases that don't scream gun. I don't know what they might have in stock, but they respond promptly to email.

David
 
Not that I am aware, but I'm sure that any developments will have to be cleared for release by their attorneys. As of now there is no indication of progress.

David
 
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I wish CA would let us buy composite rifle lowers.
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You can, as long as it is off-list and not in AW config. As long as you do a fixed-mag build with a Bullet Button, P50, or B15, you should be fine. Have it modded before it comes instate.
 
Bump

Christmas is around the corner and some are inflating BATFE DROS 2008 stats by buying cheap receivers/junk guns.

I'm looking at another 3 lowers before 2009 myself. :D
 
Today is one year. No charges filled. No seized inventory returned. Lowers are shipping to Brownell's about twice a week.
 
Sigh . . . Sad the ATF can just rob you and theres nothing you can do about it.

CavArms should sue the federal gov along with the ATF for . . . I dunno you can't even say malicious procectution because no ones been charged!
 
If a government official or office is keeping one in limbo, I think one can go into court and request a writ of mandamus, which is, in common language, a sh*t or get off the pot order. I know that they must have attorneys involved with this so I wonder if there's something we don't know.
 
Reds Trading post got the ATF thugs to back down by providing a blog. Cavalry is keeping us in the dark and it isn't helping them. Cooperating with tyrants didn't help the jews and it won't help Cav arms. Thugs only understand force, and they only read FEAR. They like victims that don't fight back because ATF are cowards. Reading Red's blog after the dozens of pointless and desperate ATF visits, especially after ATF claimed they were "threatened" by the mere existence of the blog, showed what scared little cowards the ATF really are. Shining the light on them is like showing dracula the cross.

Here's some good news from Cav's website:
1/26/2009 CAV-15 MKII Receivers Back in Production!

The CAV-15 MKII receivers are back in production, after receiving approval from BATF Technology Branch for the method of affixing the serial number plate to the lower. We are currently filling back orders for our dealers and OEM clients. We will begin taking retail orders when all dealer back orders are filled. Please check with our dealers to see if they have in stock what you need.

We are currently not selling complete lowers, or complete rifles. Our vendors for these parts have substantial back orders. We currently have no ETA for these parts. If you are concerned about impending legislation, buy a lower receiver now and assemble it into a complete rifle when the supply chain stabilizes.

Our phone and e-mail traffic is continually increasing. If we do not answer the phone, please leave a message. We will return your calls and e-mails as soon as possible.

Estimated shipping time for all receiver orders is currently 3-4 weeks. Other parts may ship within 1-2 weeks.

Thank you for understanding and patience.
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If a government official or office is keeping one in limbo, I think one can go into court and request a writ of mandamus, which is, in common language, a sh*t or get off the pot order. I know that they must have attorneys involved with this so I wonder if there's something we don't know.
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remember, when that guy in Wisconson had his AR-15 break and go full auto, the defense sent a bunch of motions for certain paperwork related to the recall. The judge approved the motions. The ATF did nothing. The judge's ruling, while having the power of law, had only paper power.

I see the same thing happening here. ATF simply will repeatedly loose paperwork, lie about it, or simply not do it.
 
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Think

Forfeiture.

The ATF is little more than a criminal organization. They don't fight criminals, they are criminals.
 
Back to the top. ARFcom has several folks that keep a date count on the Cavalry Arms Press Release thread.

Today is day 617.
 
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