Do you avoid going to countries that don't respect RKBA?

Do you avoid going to countries that don't respect RKBA?

  • Yes, I do.

    Votes: 100 47.8%
  • No, I don't.

    Votes: 109 52.2%

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I have no interest in travelling to foreign countries, and their view of the right to self-defense is only one of the many reasons why.

I also have no interest in supporting (either financially, or via some perceived encouragement) their repressive stance(s) on the RKBA for their own citizens, regardless how "enlightened" they may think themselves, or to allow anyone to misconstrue my visit as support for their disdain for the US and our efforts to advance liberty around the world.

There's nothing in any foreign country that I want, or want to see, that I can't either import or view in high definition, except, perhaps, the ungodly stench. ;)
 
I'm in Canada, Quebec City, so the country next to me is the United States, I went to New York three times, two to Adirondack Park and one to the city, Vermont, Boston one time.
Why should I avoid going there? No reason, and based on what I read here, evenif I am canadian I could carry in Vermont, so this is one more reason for me to come.
That's true that our laws are really making canada a "no guns land", no carry (certainly not OC, no CCW neither), stupid anti-gun politicians (I have to leave, I can't take anymore stupidity, on of our "politician" want to ban assault weapons that have the mag behind the trigger like the beretta, WHAT, assault military weapon? ***, they don't even know what is the difference between a shotgun and a rifle), all that makes me want to live in the U.S, if I could, I would do.
Anyway I don't avoid countries that don't respect RKBA.
 
Heck, I avoid STATES that prohibit/ restrict RKBA

My rule of thumb:
I can't carry there? I can't spend money there. I vote with my wallet as well as at the booth. Does that mean I'm a less travelled man? Yup sure does. My wife has wanted to get me to go to N Y with her for sometime. Answer is NOPE. IT is nice to see my area of travel Concealed is growing these days though :)

+1 on what Kevin Said
 
HGUNHNTR said:
...I would not have guessed there was this much small mindedness on this particular board...
Hey! I resent that:mad:
Bubbles said:
...I can't afford to travel to foreign countries...
I can't afford to travel to foreign countries, even though I live in a foreign country:confused:
Artiz said:
...I'm in Canada, Quebec City...
Doesn't Quebec have different laws than the rest of Canada, in certain respects? While my cousin (residing in Montreal) and I were visiting the university mensa, many were causually smoking hash, without fear. That's something unthinkable, in Ontario
deaconkharma said:
...I vote with my wallet as well as at the booth...
Trouble is, the size of my wallet just about equals the effectiveness of my vote. On top of that, each time I close my wallet, many a bigger wallet open up and seem to make my efforts vain
 
I avoid even traveling through US states that have restrictive gun laws--NJ, CA, NY, MA, and IL come to mind.

I'm a lot more willing to visit non-US countries, and their gun laws per se aren't that much of a factor.

Heck, I spend more time in the Bahamas than in the US. I work here. Bahamian gun laws are relatively sane by British Commonwealth standards.

You couldn't pay me to go to the UK, but the gun laws there are only a peripheral factor. On the other hand I've always liked France, and would gladly visit there again on my own time. (Personally I've found the French reputation for rudeness to be hugely undeserved. Perhaps that's because I've spent very little time in Paris?)
 
and I would never limit myself based on another coutries views of the US constitution. I would not have guessed there was this much small mindedness on this particular board.

It has nothing to do with views on the US Constitution, rather views on human rights.

Countries that tend to be very restrictive gun wise tend to be very overbearing human rights wise.

Hardly a coincidence.
 
Doesn't Quebec have different laws than the rest of Canada, in certain respects? While my cousin (residing in Montreal) and I were visiting the university mensa, many were causually smoking hash, without fear. That's something unthinkable, in Ontario
No, laws are supposed to be the same everywhere, I am in Quebec City, not montreal, in montreal there is the SPVM (Service de Police de la Ville de Montréal) and they are not very serious, that's why I will never live in montreal, stupid authority.
The province of Quebec has the SQ (Sûreté du Québec) wich mostly controls everywhere except of quebec city (Police de Québec) and Montreal (SPVM), other cities have their own police too.
Anywhere in quebec the police is not serious enough, I remember gun fights with police, omg, they shoot old people in the middle of the street for no reason, they have to empty their weapon to hit the target, they are ridicoulous, I hate living somewhere when I know that if a police man has to brandish and shoot, I am most likely to get the bullet than the bad guy, that's as stupid as police here is.
God I like U.S for this reason, you can defend yourself, here if I defend myself, even if I just kick the bad guy's butt, I have more chances to get in prison than the bad guy, we can't defend ourselves, period, I HATE THESE STUPID AUTHORITIES!
 
Kevin: "There's nothing in any foreign country that I want, or want to see, that I can't either import or view in high definition, except, perhaps, the ungodly stench."

You've adequately lived up to the stereotype Kevin.

, and Americans wonder why the world thinks they are ethnocentric.
 
Do you avoid going to countries that don't respect RKBA?

There is only one country with the RKBA, all the rest are either anti or deem it to be a privilege granted to their citizens/subjects (and I am talking about citizens in their own country not tourists).
 
stereotype? nah

Some feel our rights are negotiable depending on where we are at that time. I think where we are is negotiable, not our rights.
 
Yes, but also states and businesses. Because those who support the erosion of our rights should not be rewarded with my money. Because my rights are not--well, I wish there were not--negotiable. Because my country should be free.
 
It is interesting how Americans hold fast to their political rights, however are quick to surrender personal rights. Ie. staying holed up in one place, afraid of having to be subject to some evil, stinky, "farn" countrie's rules even for such a breif time as a holiday.
I know this isn't true of all Americans
 
As someone else said, I won't visit states in the US that don't respect RKBA. I'd be damned if I am going to someone else's house across the pond that requires me to place my safety in their hands of their criminals. I don't care how safe it supposedly is. Unless there's zero crime, there's a possibility of being in the wrong place/wrong time, and cops still can't be every place at once. Even in Europe.

LOL! Moga buddy - You must sleep with at least one eye open every night!
 
There's nothing in any foreign country that I want, or want to see, that I can't either import or view in high definition, except, perhaps, the ungodly stench.

LMAO! Just as well that you stay where you are, fondling your gun - Your kind isn't exactly missed when you don't show up.
 
"Farn" countries?

is that an attempt at stereotyping?
The funny thing is most americans don't need to go anywhere else for culture when we import it from those seeking a better life, leaving the "Old World".
We have all the "FARN" culture we need right here. Many natural wonders still to explore here and we can do so while excercising the freedom in question. Thanks but those "FARN" lands don't really have much that I can't find here....Bubba.
 
TropicalBuzz said:
...You must sleep with at least one eye open every night!...
Once one starts sleeping with both eyes open, chances are that he will never wake up again, ever:eek::what:
deaconkharma said:
...The funny thing is most americans don't need to go anywhere else for culture when we import it from those seeking a better life, leaving the "Old World"...
If only it was that way, Sir. Fact iz, since 1965, the culture that's been seeping in, since then, has been enriching us with refried bean type culinary cultural assets, strategic gang warfare and automobiles which act like they're ready to copulate with one another. And, I don't mean the ones wearing steer horns on the hood.
Nothing from the "Old World" that I know of, Sir
 
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LMAO! Just as well that you stay where you are, fondling your gun - Your kind isn't exactly missed when you don't show up.

Not to worry, Tropical Buzz. That's precisely what I'll do! Since I don't know what "kind" you are, I'll just assume I'm right about you, and yours, too! :rolleyes:
 
You'll assume you're right about most things anyway - no point in me trying to change your mind. As long as you stay holed up at home getting high on the ungodly stench of you and yours, it doesn't really matter much now does it?
 
Gun envy = sour grapes

Poor poor "Farn-ers"

Love the way they denigrate others as being closed minded because one might not want to have one's rights infringed, thus not visit a country. Closed minded is not recognizing that my choice is such, and for answering the question truthfully, we get bashed. Hey it's my choice not to have to answer "papiere geffallen" or to watch a lovely game of Steinstossen and we are deemed closed minded. At least I haven't imposed that opinion on the masses like gun control has been on the populations of countries I said I wouldn't visit. PERSONAL CHOICE. Look into it.

Furter yet, we have shots at other "Farn-ers" that come in as refried bean importers. Perhaps you'd like to take a shot at the Chinese too? Maybe a friendly comment about egg foo young or some other funny saying while replaceing r's with l's or something, SIRs?

America is constantly getting bashed around the world because we do what others can't or won't out of cowardice, laziness, ignorance, or apathy. We hold our rights dear, some people more than others. Also some rights are deemed more dear than others for some people. We do our damndest to not be like other countries who have given up their rights and we fight our politicians and judges who attempt to take those rights. (Funny many of those same public figures quote laws from these other nations in question) Being this way both individually and as a nation has prevented invasion and has made us the guys everyone else runs to when other countries are threatening. I'm sure I or my children will get to visit one of your fine "FARN" countries when they are whining to be saved again. Might be sooner than you think with the way Putin is flexing these days.
 
I have no issue with people choosing to visit or not visit foreign countries for whatever reason(s) they choose. I fully expect that every American should be justifiably proud of his country - it is a great nation and there certainly is enough to see and do there that it could easily take up the better part of a lifetime of vacations.
I can't speak for anyone else, but the issue I had is with the need to insult or denigrate others and their countries as part of expressing pride in your own. I'm just as proud of my country as you are of yours and believe it or not, I will fight just as hard (maybe even harder) to defend it.
Normally, I just shrug and laugh off that caliber of internet ignorance when I encounter it, but this being The High Road and all, I find that level of stupidity hard to walk away from as it panders to the typical idiotic stereotype of paranoid, hate-mongering gun owners that makes all of us look bad and adds fuel to the fire of the anti gun movement.
 
+1 Tropical

However my family comes first if it came to a fight, not my country, not even close.

Fighting for a country, is illogical. I would fight for humans and their well being, regardless of which side of the border they are on.

Hey are we off topic yet?:)
 
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