Woman Harassed for Open Carry

Like it or not. Some people will never be able to bring a gun on another person, not matter what is happening. Rather that be out of fear, or religious beliefs. Makes little diffrence.


On the you can change religion comment... if you really beleave in your religion, Then you can not change.

And those people shouldn't carry because they couldn't actually use the gun. That's not pertinent though...stay on topic, TAB.

TAB said:

nukes = arms... same argument as "shall not be infringed"

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You need to read through case law. That is not true at all. Arms has always mean small arms through the course of this country. You're sounding a lot like a Brady now...

Like it or not. Some people will never be able to bring a gun on another person, not matter what is happening. Rather that be out of fear, or religious beliefs. Makes little diffrence.

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I have no idea what that means.

On the you can change religion comment... if you really beleave in your religion, Then you can not change.

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And I really believe in the 2nd Amendment and my right to defend myself and my family. I cannot change.

Are y'all trying to get the thread locked? (mostly I'm talking to the OC-is-stupid folks. Mostly.)

"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil influence."
George Washington

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When and where did Washington say that?

K

If you believe Wikipedia:

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty, teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon and citizens' firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that, to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 and 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil influence. They deserve a place of honor with all that's good. When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour."

- George Washington's address to the second session of the First U.S. Congress.

So I should be able to go down to the hardware store, buy a nuke, and strap it to my back... So that I can protect myself and my family.

nukes = arms... same argument as "shall not be infringed"

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Perhaps the most stupid argument I've seen you make. Even dumber than your rants against concealed carry and the fallacy of how it infringes property rights.

Nukes are ordnance, get a clue.

TAB is THR's own personal brady rep from california.

-T

wait so the argument that 2a is not clear as some people would like it to be in its meaning is a bad one?

TAB said:

wait so the argument that 2a is not clear as some people would like it to be in its meaning is a bad one?

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Care to translate this? And punctuation would be nice.

"So you think it's a reasonable belief that she walked up to someone and started an argument because she herself was open carrying, not only that, but that was omitted from the reason her LTCF was revoked? That's down right crazy."


nope i'm saying unless you were there your statement was a guess

A nuclear device is a MUNITION, not an arm.

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So, the 2A gives us a right to have guns, but not ammunition? Don't tell the anti-gunners.

- George Washington's address to the second session of the First U.S. Congress.

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I believe this is the text of the address: http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/blfirstsou.htm


K

So, the 2A gives us a right to have guns, but not ammunition? Don't tell the anti-gunners.

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"Dog" and "doge" mean different things, even though "doge" has the letters "d", "o", and "g" in it.

CD said:

nope i'm saying unless you were there your statement was a guess

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Oh...but you certainly don't have any problem asserting that she did start everything...

CD said:

WHAT?! you mean when she told her version of what happened it made her look bad enough circling the wagons and hiding even HER version was deemed wise? say it ain't so!

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And your assertion that the soccer league was within their rights and acted reasonable...

CD said:

wheres this field? who owns it? and in pa if an organization leases the facility do they gain the customary tenants rights? as in the right to set conditions for playing/watching there

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You have been looking for any reason to go after this woman instead of standing up for everyone's rights.

"And your assertion that the soccer league was within their rights and acted reasonable...

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wheres this field? who owns it? and in pa if an organization leases the facility do they gain the customary tenants rights? as in the right to set conditions for playing/watching there


assertion? is there a new definition for that? i asked 3 questions in order to see if they could legally tell her what to do


and the first new definition "assertion" was a reply to the poster who pointed out that they pulled her version of the events from the website/forum. i find it odd that someone would hide their story when they believe they were wronged or that others would need to hide it for her.
i don't know what she did she has decided not to tell us. i am not much into following ANY party line. the syncophant thing is so.... high school

Some people on here would believe Sarah Brady's version before someone OCing. They would argue against the sheriff's own words meaning anything, and would throw every single individual who believed in OC under the bus.

you can not change religious laws. A gun is just an object, a religious symbol, is not just an object.

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Sorry bud personal beliefs are personal beliefs. This is one of the least persuasive arguments I have heard in some time!

nope i'm saying unless you were there your statement was a guess

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But then again that statement was actually based on the revocation letter, whereas many of the negative statements, towards the good lady are based on exactly jack! I guess that not all "guesses" are created equally!

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and in pa if an organization leases the facility do they gain the customary tenants rights?
no. is this clear enough for you?

really if a kids league chose to bar a parent they would have no recourse? we've encountered problems when private groups arrange to use a public facility and want to restrict who can use them and how. i know i barred parents when i coached kids and that was in a commonwealth state as well

she can barred from sitting with other parents at games. her kid can be kicked out of the league. they can't force her to leave. if i was walking by, and decide to sit and watch the game, there isn't a damned thing anyone can do about it.

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I would bet that some where in PA law there is a provsion about people watching children "play" that are not yours. That or a loitering law that would apply.

when i barred a parent way back when i called the cops and they told em if they came back they got to ride in the back of the cop car. it was a long time ago and i only barred 2in 5 years had a very good effect on the others and more importantly allowed the kids to have fun. we started doing it after the second brawl in one season.

You are breaking from the actual issue at hand. The fact remains....she wasn't doing anything unlawful, she was bullied by politicos because she was openly carrying a firearm which is perfectly legal, her permit was revoked for openly carrying.

For some strange reason, you hate OC, CD, and that doesn't make the least bit of sense because 2nd amendment advocates should stand up for the right to carry firearms.

I would bet that some where in PA law there is a provsion about people watching children "play" that are not yours. That or a loitering law that would apply.

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Most youth sports leagues like audiences. I'm sure you won't find any law like that anywhere in the world.

you'd be betting wrong.

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Some how I doubt it,

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if i was walking by, and decide to sit and watch the game, there isn't a damned thing anyone can do about it.

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I have little doubt that the Local LEA can and would legally remove you.