Just bought another G19. Having issues though.. Help please!

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Well, after selling off almost all my handguns (including a G19 and G27) in the past 2 years, I ended up only with a Ruger LCP and an H&K USPc40 V1. I like the H&K, but I realized that I like the simple and efficient design of the Glock better for self-defense purposes. Plus 9mm is the only affordable choice of ammo anymore... So I picked up a brand new G19 with the factory night-sights with the intent to sell my H&K to cover the cost.

I've had it for about a week and took it out to the range twice. The first time was this past Thursday and I let a few friends tag along to shoot a handgun for their first time. About 200 rounds went through the gun on that day. Ammo used was: 50 rds of Blazer 115g FMJ target ammo., 40 rds of Speer Gold-Dot 124g JHP, and another 100 rounds of WWB 115g FMJ. Four different people shot this ammo off.

No FTF, FTE, or anything. Perfect break-in.

Today, however, I took my girlfriend back to the range to use up another box of the Blazer ammo. During the only magazine she attempted to shoot, she gave up half way and said, "Here." I grabbed the gun from her hand and noticed that it wasn't fully chambered. I looked closer and noticed an empty shell was jammed half way into the chamber! I retracted the slide with the magazine still in, removed the empty shell from the chamber area, slid the next round back into the rear of the magazine, and hit the slide release to chamber the round. Fired it. Happened again! This happened 3 times in a row until I removed the magazine and re-inserted it. From then on, it was ok.

Did she/I limp wrist it? I noticed that the aluminum Blazer casings were not flying very far from the gun during both range sessions. Several of them were hitting me right in the head. The Speer and WWB ammo with brass casings weren't as bad, but still didnt go very far. Maybe a few feet to my rear/right. Heck, my Ruger LCP .380 ejects the emptys at least twice as far!

Is something wrong with my gun? Does anyone else experience this? My first G19 didn't do this, but then again I don't really remember all that well.
 
One thing to check: Look at the empties that failed to eject. Is there a notch out of the brass where the extractor tried to rip it out of the chamber and failed? If not, you may have a weak extractor (my first suspicion)

If there is a decent notch cut it the brass, then the extractor at least tried, but the round was too tight in the chamber. Check for a rough or very dirty chamber and if it is dirty clean it. If it has heavy machine marks, it will need more attention.
 
Did she/I limp wrist it?
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Most likely yes. A lady brought in a G23 and said she has problems with it. After removing the mag and locking the slide back there was an empty shell stuck into the barrel's chamber and couldn't get it out. It was literally stuck!!! Since I wasn't a certified Glock armorer, I suggested she take to a smith to remove it.

Looks like your G19 doesn't like Blazers. Stick with the other brands and if the problem still comes up, contact Glock.
 
Thanks for the replies. I'll shoot it again and if the problem happens again I'll be sure to check for this "notch."

I'd be devastated if I had to send a new Glock back to the factory...I already went through this with Kahr!

How far and what direction do your empty shells fly? I was having problems with the empty shells landing on my head. The whole thing just doesn't seem right to me..is there anything else that could be wrong?

FWIW, the gun is very accurate and I miss the Glock trigger and how it breaks and resets. Feels so crisp and nice. I shoot it better than my USPc with the SA trigger.
 
I have a friend who owns a 2nd gen glock 22 and sometimes the cases hit him in the head also. I'm not sure exactly why. You might want to call Glock and ask them. It most likely is the extractor.
 
From my experience Glocks and blazers don't get along very well but your milage may vary. From what I have seen if a Glock gets even slightly dirty aluminum Blazers tend to stick in the chamber. I would try some Winchester White Box and other brass cased ammo first then, if they work OK, clean the bore and chamber and try the Aluminum Blazers again.
 
From my experience Glocks and blazers don't get along very well but your milage may vary. From what I have seen if a Glock gets even slightly dirty aluminum Blazers tend to stick in the chamber. I would try some Winchester White Box and other brass cased ammo first then, if they work OK, clean the bore and chamber and try the Aluminum Blazers again.
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That's the answer I was hoping to hear. I think I'll do exactly that. My first thought when it happened was "Oh no." Then it was, "Aluminum shell." So maybe it's just the Blazer ammo? Anyone else have any good/bad experiences with Blazer in your Glock 19?

I just can't get over how my little LCP's extractor/ejector gets those empty shells to fly so far. Makes my G19 look like it's struggling to cycle properly!
 
DO NOT oil the firing fin channel, it should be clean and dry.

Also I would switch magazines, it sounds like you could possibly have a follower/spring problem.

Best of Luck
 
Keep the firing pin channel very clean and dry. It is imperative that you read up on the proper maintenance of the Glock not only for longevity of the pistol, but for proper function and safety.

I would give your Glock a very thorough cleaning and use a very fine toothbrush or the small end of a Kleenbore nylon brush to make sure you get behind the extractor with solvent. Properly lube the Glock (bear in mind, less is more with them) and use factory magazines.

I have never liked the way Blazer ammo functioned in my Sig, so I've just avoided shooting it altogether. I also have found it to be dirtier and not as smooth to shoot versus other well known brands.

Let us know if you were able to fix the problem, and good luck.
 
I had failure to extract problems with Blazer aluminum in my G19 also. No problem at all with the steel of Wolf ammo, so I'd guess it's the relative softness of the Blazer cases and maybe the chamber gets a little tighter with a hot gun making the aluminum stick.

no more Blazer for me.
 
I have had the exact same problems with other guns when using Aluminum Blazers. My CZ, Smith M&P, and XD ALL DID THE EXACT SAME THING WITH A
LUM. BLAZERS. I just bought a Glock 19, I won't be putting Alum. Blazers in it, thats for sure.
 
Ammo and the Glock

Don't give up on the Glock. Even though I like alot of CCI's products and use their primers to reload, PUHLEEEAZE everybody, PUHLEEEAZE stop buying their aluminum-cased handgun ammo. There are countless stories of people having trouble with it. It's time to give it up and send CCI the message. They know how to make decent ammo for a good price, without the aluminum. There are other options out there. I won't trust my life to aluminum casings. Even if I never have another problem with them. And yes, your extractor can be messed with a bit to help the ejection issues, and also can be effected by the lb. rating of your recoil spring. Ask a good gunsmith about it, and also try one of the Wolff or Wilson Combat spring kits for your gun. They're good.
Best regards - Lookn4Brass
 
Blazer aluminum works well in all of my pistols except my CZ75 (occasional failures to extract) and is generally more accurate than the other budget ammunition I have used.

Two of the 3 pistols that finished the 2008 ISHOT1000 match without any malfunctions were using Blazer Aluminum.
 
I have shot many cases of Blazer aluminum with zero problems and prefer it to WWB which has more problems in general.
 
This last Friday I bought a used 2nd gen Glock 19. This is my first handgun and I'm pretty green about my guns. I just bought my first gun about a month ago. That was/is a Mossberg 500, and I got it for home defense.

So, my Glock. I did my research, and it seemed like a perfect fit. I'd shot it, loved it, and it's supposed to be one of the most reliable handguns in the world.

I took it home, cleaned it, twice. It was pretty dirty. I oiled it per the diagram and per a youtube video of a cop doing a thorough clean of his Glock.

Today I took it out, went through two mags no problem. I'm shooting white box Winchester 115gr ammo by the way. On the third mag, first round goes fine, second, no go. The shell didn't eject. By the way, about 15 spent casings hit me in the face or on the head.

This is my first time shooting alone and my first time experiencing a malfunction. I was a little stressed to say the least... The slide was stuck open and I could see the fired casing was stuck halfway out of the barrel trying to eject. I dropped the clip, racked the slide and it came right out.

I put the mag back in, racked the slide, first shot fine, and the shell didn't eject... Went through the same routine. I dumped all the ammo out of the mag, put two rounds in the mag, and was able to fire both no problem.

I'm going to take the gun back to the place I bought it and just get some store credit. After having done some research, I know it's one of a few things, but, being that I just bought it, I don't feel it's right that I just bought a problem, not a firearm.

I'll either get a 3rd gen Glock 19 or 17, or just use the credit towards a FN 5.7x28 which is what I really want.

Just sharing my experience with this exact problem, but, I didn't have crap loads.
 
if the empties are hitting you in the head, there are three possible issues.

1.) limp wristing.
2.) worn/broken ejector
3.) Work/broken ejector
 
The more I think about it, I have to believe I was limp wristing.

I didn't get any stovepipe jams, but, I would guess that since the only time I got the jams was after I'd been through 50 rounds on the shotgun, it was super hot, I was super hungry, and I just wasn't as focused as I was the first two cycles.

I think I'll go through another couple cycles this week and see what's what.
 
I believe the aluminum case Blazer ammo was your problem, my Glocks don't do real well with that stuff either.
See if you can get some of the Blazer Brass promo loads instead of the aluminum case ammo.
You should have better luck.

All four of my 9mm Glocks also don't really group well with the CCI ammo and it doesn't matter if it is Blazer aluminum, Blazer Brass, or Lawman premium stuff, they just don't care for CCI ammo.

I get best results from GECO, Fiocchi, and Military 124 grain fmj ball ammo.
The Federal and the Winchester military stuff shoot equally well.
 
Onmilo,

I've had excellent results with Glocks & Blazer aluminum ammunition, and that includes good accuracy.

Here's a picture I posted awhile back of a group I shot using Blazer aluminum and a Glock 17.
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Here's another group shot with the same combo.
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I shot 4 groups to test accuracy that day at 25 yards with the G17 & Blazer Aluminum. The average 5 shot group was just under 3.1"

I do find that the Fiocchi is very accurate, I need to run some tests comparing the accuracy of the Fiocchi to the Blazer Al.
 

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But a glock is "Perfection"!

There is no way that you had any problem with the gun.

You just had a dream that seemed so real that you had to tell us about it.
 
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