NRA Democrats

that is what i would like to see.i'm a big time dem and love guns.i won't join the nra or contribute to them in any way because the money will just go straight to the republican party.i would like to support gun rights without hurting my party.think about it.sooner or later dems will be in power again and if all you ever do is sit around calling them names then yes,they will hurt gun laws.many gun groups and some sites may as well have a big sign that says dems not welcome.don't throw away gun supporters from any party.encourage gun ownership to all parties.let me put it this way.if most dems did'nt support gun rights,there would not be enough republicans in all of the u.s. to support the gun rights we have now and the u.s. will be disarmed.

i`m sure there a lot of Democrat gun owners in the usa. but you guys in my opinion are a little two faced. you want to own guns, you want to hunt, a lot of you reload. but yet you go and vote for the very people who want to take all that away from you. i`m trying to think of any anti-gun laws on the books now that was not put into law by a Democrat and i can`t think of any. just like california is full of gun owners but they keep electing the idiots who have put more restrictions on them than any other state. and-gunlvrnleaner- all i can say is (my god man are you crazy!) an obama tee-shirt? if you came to my gun range wearing an obama tee-shirt, i`d run your butt off the range too.

The problem is that for the most part, we vote liberal because of our views on the economy and the constitution, war, etc.

I never miss an opportunity to take a fellow lib out shooting, and never hesitate to call in to elected officials or progressive talk radio and let them know how much more successful and popular they would be if they just got off of the anti gun stuff.

The more we take our love of guns public, the better chance we'll have in disassociating guns with the far right.

Fellow liberal here. Along with liberal civil rights, economic policy, comes a belief in liberal freedom: The freedom to speak as we wish, the freedom to keep and bear arms. And as a liberal, I have a liberal view of "keep and bear arms". By keep and bear, I interpret that as "possess, buy, sell, rent, use, and enjoy for any sake or no sake", and by arms I mean "anything short of a full-blown nuclear weapon". 40mm grenade launcher? Hey, what you do and have isn't any of my business, more power to you! 20mm Lahti anti-tank rifle? Who am I to say you can't own and enjoy one in the privacy of your own home or at a gun range?

If we believe in rights for minorities, we must also believe in rights for everyone. All of them, not just the ones we can sell.

I wish more liberals felt like I did.

The NRA does not give money yo the Republican Party. The NRA is a single-issue organization and they would be just as happy to endorse Democrats who support the Second Amendment - if there were any.

i wish that was true.

Well being progun in the Democrat party, IE Zell Miller, will get you nothing but anguish by telling the truth.

Kennedy's Democrat party is dead and in the current version of Democrat ideology, guns and socialism don't mix.

If your really pro gun, there's only one way to go. Period.

If your a multi issue voter, then guns are just not that important to you.

There's no hiding the truth.

are there groups we can join and try to persuade more Dems to see it our way?

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Don't need any groups. Print up your own brochures with progun issues and hand them out at Democrat meetings and rallies.
If you truly have the desire to turn your fellow voters to progun, then you'll do it. Joining groups usually only leads to like minded individuals sitting around complaining but never really do anything out of fear.

BTW there are many anti gun or the ones who feel anything other than bolt guns and shotguns should be banned republicans out there. While we don't have to worry when they vote the straight republican ticket, they would support gun bans if it came down to it.

I really admire your desire to change your party. I genuinely hope that you succeed. I could rest much easier if neither of the major political parties wanted me disarmed.

However, as it is, Democrat politicians almost universally support gun control measures. Senator Obama is one of the most fanatically anti-gun politicians in the nation. If elected, he could prove to be the most anti-gun president we've ever had.

Surely you can understand why the average gun owner would be offended by seeing an Obama t-shirt at the range.

I'm an independent because I refuse to vote for an anti-gun candidate and can't live with many of the republican party's economic policies. The new administration, and it sure looks like Obama will win, will probably take our gun rights away. THE RECENT SUPREME COURT DECISION REGARDING Washington D.C.'s restrictive handgun laws was ruled in favor of the 2nd amendment by ONE VOTE. The next president will appoint between one and three new supreme court justices, if they are anti-gun, which if Obama wins they surely will be, the next decision handed down by the supreme court will overturn our current interpretation of the 2nd amendment. WE'RE IN BIG TROUBLE BOYS. :banghead::banghead:

I've been buying guns for 47 years. during that time there have been Dem and Rep presidents. I have never been denied the purchase of a gun and noone has come to my door demanding that I surrender one. When Obama takes office in January I don't expect anything will be different.

but you guys in my opinion are a little two faced.

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I've never encountered a politician who I agreed with 100%. I have still voted in every election I have had the opportunity to vote in. I don't think that makes me two faced.

If you have been lucky enough to vote for politicians you agree with 100% then more power to you. I haven't been that lucky.

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Hankhunter, i sure hope your right. there's a lot of talk now amongst demo's to tax ammo and components to the point that no one can afford either. The australians thought their gun rights were safe also. look what happened there. If you don't fight for your freedoms you will lose them, just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't happen.:banghead:

feedthehogs: If your a multi issue voter, then guns are just not that important to you.

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Thank you for posting this. I agree, and I think it is a waste of time to ‘reach out’ to people who put their desire for free government treats over the natural right to self-defense. We should stop humoring ‘pro-gun’ Democrats, they won’t be there when we need them.

Yeah thats the same argument that I've heard for 47 years. I was still shooting yesterday and I might shoot today if it quits raining.

I've been buying guns for 47 years. during that time there have been Dem and Rep presidents. I have never been denied the purchase of a gun and noone has come to my door demanding that I surrender one. When Obama takes office in January I don't expect anything will be different.

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I'm assuming you didn't have a problem with the 94 assault weapons ban, and don't have a problem with the new democratic party proposed assault weapons ban? I'm just trying to figure out where you stand on the second amendment?

After 94 every gun show I went to had assault weapons including class 3.

After 94 every gun show I went to had assault weapons including class 3.

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At double to triple the price. I take it paying $100 for a $15 Glock 22 mag didn't bother you, or $1000 for a Colt lower that normally sold for $200-300.

And please recall that those weapons were available at any price only because the Democrats couldn't get enough Republican votes to ban them entirely and confiscate them, which was Feinstein's desire.

Pretty much the biggest reason why I don't vote Democrat is due to the party's stance on guns. I have a couple more but I really would wish they would try to be more open about it. There really needs to be a way to get more pro-gun Democrats elected. I know that they are out there. Its sad though, that this year there is a candidate from the Chicago Machine. I blame Chicago for the rest of the state having such ignorant gun laws. I really don't want to get into politics here... but I agree with everyone here. Its not really Obama the man, but rather the ideals and ideology of the place in which he is from. There needs to be a bigger effort to get the mindset in the cities that guns are not the cause of their problems but its rather the "bad guys". I don't see this argument working though. I could go on and on but don't really want to right now. The political dynamics and the ideologies that come with different sects of society dictate different evaluations of a specific situation. The problem with many of these forces is that there are predetermined causes for the situations that are expressed within society. That being said, there needs to be more objectivity. I am no sociologist, but I can tell you that the same mentality that came about from the dawning of violence is still prevalent today in that removing the capacity to do violence will in turn remove violence itself. This of course is a limited way at viewing the problem. It is human nature, arrived from the traditions rooted in the development of society; the conflict between the haves and the have nots that instigate violence. But, it is a limited view of the world that leads one to believe that removal of the object will result in the removal of the act. Anyway, I may write more on this later… or start a new thread. But the bottom line I am trying to make is that in order to change the Democratic Party’s platform, different ideologies must be interjected….. Then there is the whole problem with lobbies that is tied into this whole notion… and that is another rant.

by the way, feedthehogs, you are RIGHT ON!!!

I'm not a Democrat, but the NRA shows a few Dems as having an "A" record. I'm quite possibly going to vote for them.

I'm sorry, but a gun owner voting for Osama - I mean Obama - is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.