For those who are interested I was @ Academy in Plano today and they had the sigmas for 299 and also have a $50 rebate. So $249 for both the 9mm and .40. Until Saturday then the price goes up to $329 or something. I think you still get the rebate. I am not sure if this is at all Academy locations but I think it is. I was thinking about getting my wife the 9mm.
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jpruitt
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They're pretty long and heavy (about 12 lb I think), but I've heard from owners they get better after a few hundred rounds.
I have never shot one. Just figured the price was right and the wife could use another gun. Of course they won't take off the trigger lock and let you dry fire it there. Oh well. I will let you know if the triggers are awful after I get 1 if I do.
wally
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IF you are coming to the Sigma from a revolver, its trigger is not so bad, just probably heavier than you might like, if you are coming from a Taurus revolver the Sigma will be fine.
OTOH coming from most any other semi-auto pistol the Sigma trigger is pretty bad, but the gun is cheap and reliable with a great warranty. The trigger is not really an issue at typical car length SD ranges.
I'm not sure if the trigger improves with firing or your finger gets stronger
--wally.
OTOH coming from most any other semi-auto pistol the Sigma trigger is pretty bad, but the gun is cheap and reliable with a great warranty. The trigger is not really an issue at typical car length SD ranges.
I'm not sure if the trigger improves with firing or your finger gets stronger
--wally.
The trigger is very like a double action revolver. It is long, but it is very manageable for me. It is a very close copy of the Glock, just a whole lot less expensive.
I've had two and they are reliable, dependable with all kinds of ammo, and have given me zero problems.
I've had two and they are reliable, dependable with all kinds of ammo, and have given me zero problems.
GunLvrNLearner
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It is a great gun at least mine is and everyone that i am certain owns one likes them too, trigger is long..very reliable gun, seems mainly the negative views coome from those who never owned one
mljdeckard
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(Cringing to keep it in......) RUN!!! Run I tell you! They're overpriced! I got raped when I traded mine in and I wept with joy! If I were in a fight, and I looked down on the ground and saw a rock and a Sigma, I would have to think really hard before I picked one of them up.
Yes, the trigger sucks. A LOT. My front sight was a nylon plug that freakin' FELL OFF. It wouldn't feed anything until I had the feed ramp milled. I had a hydra-shok fail to leave the barrel, I shot another round before I realized what had happened. (It survived long enough for me to sell it.)
Bad luck, bad batch, bad pistol, bad company, don't know, don't care. The new ones might be great, but I'll certainly never know.
Yes, the trigger sucks. A LOT. My front sight was a nylon plug that freakin' FELL OFF. It wouldn't feed anything until I had the feed ramp milled. I had a hydra-shok fail to leave the barrel, I shot another round before I realized what had happened. (It survived long enough for me to sell it.)
Bad luck, bad batch, bad pistol, bad company, don't know, don't care. The new ones might be great, but I'll certainly never know.
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I think a lot of negatives are the older versions,the current version is FINE
You also have a very large group of Glock fans who turn up their collective noses at anything that wasn't invented by Gaston Glock. The Sigma is fine. It is exactly what it is meant to be.....an economically priced, dependable weapon that just goes bang every time. Glock snobbery is rampant.
1KPerDay
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I didn't have any problem with mine... early .40 cal model. 15 rounds of .40 in a very reliable, accurate package for $250-300 is nothing to sneeze at, IMO. I just think they're ugly. But pretty is as pretty does, as they say.
bigcim
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I bought one for the Mrs. because she like shooting targets with me at the range. It was very discouraging for her not being able to hit the target like she did before because of the trigger pull. So I bought her a Xd like mine and all is well had a smile back on her face the very next trip to the range. I know the trigger can be something can a person can overcome. I needed a handgun that would make shooting fun as possible to keep her interest and for her that meant hitting what she was aiming at. The Sigma IMO is a fine gun for the price for a person who shoots occasionally or wants a night stand gun. It goes bang every time it and ate everything I feed it. I never had a problem with it. The wife just shot a different brand a little better
cjw3cma
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It's so hard not to add my 3 cents here.
Bad / awful triggers? No - it is a double action gun. The trigger acts as the safety.
Yes after a few hundred rounds and lots of dry firing the trigger tends to smooth out. But it is part of the design.
My S&W 40V has a trigger pull of 7 to 8 lbs. now after lots of ball ammo and I do like it.
Bad / awful triggers? No - it is a double action gun. The trigger acts as the safety.
Yes after a few hundred rounds and lots of dry firing the trigger tends to smooth out. But it is part of the design.
My S&W 40V has a trigger pull of 7 to 8 lbs. now after lots of ball ammo and I do like it.
thebaldguy
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Wow! Great price! I haven't seen them around here that cheap in a long time.
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Not bad at all. I wouldn't mind adding one to the collection.
Mickstix
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Mine (trigger) is definitely loosening up the more I fire and dry fire it.. I've had it for about 3 months and every night before turning in, I practice dry firing it for a few minutes.. I've prolly dry fired it a thousand times and put 250 rounds through it, and I can tell a substantial difference from when I first got it.. Mines the newer model 9VE.. Definitely worth 250.00 IMO..
Please, you've got to be a pretty "girly man" if you think the trigger is "OH MY GOD I LEFT THE SAFETY ON" stiff.. It's 12lbs from the factory.. And it's not intended to be a target competition gun..
Please, you've got to be a pretty "girly man" if you think the trigger is "OH MY GOD I LEFT THE SAFETY ON" stiff.. It's 12lbs from the factory.. And it's not intended to be a target competition gun..
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So Federal under charging a round is the Sigma's fault? The fact that gun held together with a blocked barrel is a testament to its strength. Did you ever send the gun back to S&W to try to have the feeding issue fixed? Did you send it back to S&W to have it fixed after the plugged bbl incident? Did you send Federal the lot number off the box the dud hydra-shok came from, or otherwise report the incident to Federal?
Ignore is bliss isn't it?
The shop where I work only sells a couple hundred Sigmas a year. In the two years I've been there I've yet to see one come back with any issue other than complaints about trigger weight. For that reason I always have customers who are looking at a Sigma dry fire it first to make sure they can handle the trigger pull. The new VE Sigmas are a great overall value.
I suppose people who cant afford even a used Glock shouldn't have a gun at all then? Please tell me where these $250 used Glocks with two full capacity mags can be found.
Not - the trigger is terrible and the sigma's only real useful purpose is to be a car/trunk gun and should be price pointed at around $200.
Rather have a used Glock than a new Sigma anyday.
If the original Sigma wasn't a copy of the Glock why did Glock sue S&W (and win)? By the way the Sigma now has 14 of its own patents.
sigma 40ve
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I have one. It has been good. The triggers do stink. I done some trigger work on mine, plus after countless rds and dry fires it is about like a glock 5.5 trigger now. Most people trash them, but I have took mine on several road trips with complete confidence. In fact it is less than 1 foot away now at the side of my desk.
Guess you proved I am wrong with that one. That proves that there has never been a trigger as good as a Sigma anywhere ever.
However, I have shot 3 Sigmas, no more, no less. Perhaps I got the ones that had the worst triggers in the world but there is absolutely no excuse for a striker fired pistol to have that bad a trigger pull. I really wanted to buy one because it is so simliar to a Glock. Like I said, I shot Smith, Colt and Rugers double action for 30 years and I would rather buy a Hi-Point than a Sigma. Sigma is a good gun but there is no justification for that trigger.
Yes, they shouldn't have a gun at all.
A used Glock is not worth $250 so you would have to pony up more cash. A new sigma is worth maybe $200 not $250, so there's $50 toward the Glock right there!
Just to break the ice and get the sigma fans, all 10 of them, from not being upset...
Mickstix
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Sorry you dont like the sigma trigger.. As has been stated, it's stiff from the factory, yet gets smoother with time.. It's a $250-300 SD gun, not something you want to take to a bullseye match.. That said, if you cant hit the torso of a bad guy from 20' with one, your not a very good shot.. But, lucky for Hi-Point, there are guys like you around..
Chuckulator
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Don't forget you can take one of the two trigger return springs out which really lightens the trigger pull. My Sigma is one of my favorite guns just because of the value and the decent capacity. Without the extra spring, the trigger is just fine. If you have ever shot a Kel-tec P11 or the like, you won't have any trouble with a Sigma.
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