Home made tools - how to?

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glenjoy

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I am planning to make the following:

GO gauge
NO GO Gauge
Barrrel Alignment block
Barrel locking tool

Can someone please post the dimensions of the said tools?

Thank you.
 
GO gauge and NO-GO Gauge are specific to the caliber you are testing... some are interchangeable though. It is easier to buy them as you need them, keep them lightly oiled when not in use or they will rust.
 
You're talking about tools that need to be ground (as opposed to "machined") to tollerances inside of .0001. Not what most accomplished machinists do--not that they lack abilility, they lack specialized equipment. Do you have it? I suspect that if you did, you wouldn't have the question. Short answer--forget it!! Buy it from the specialty shops that can do it--that's their speciality, that's why they're in business.
 
This is one headspace guage for the 30-06:
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This is the drawing:
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As noted already, it's not something the average DYSer is equipped to make.

Can't help you with the Barrrel Alignment block or Barrel locking tool, whatever those are.


rcmodel
 
Good luck. Your mind is obviously made up, but you've been forwarned. Just because a shop says they'll make one doesn't mean it is correct. Do you have and has the shop seen a real drawing as shown by rc above?
 
My local machine shop would charge a couple hundred to make those 4 tools, but you can buy them all for a quarter of that. Go to Brownells or MidwayUSA for retail, or the tool makers themselves (Wheeler, PTG, etc.).
 
My local machine shop would charge a couple hundred to make those 4 tools,
Dang! You must have a cheap machine shop!

Most places would want two bills just to turn the power switch on around here.

rcmodel
 
As a Manager of a full service machine shop, I can tell you that two bills doesn't get the switches flipped. Maybe twice that. You have to look at the details. Most shops charge $60/hr minimum. Setup, then produce and inspect. We sell time...lots and lots of time.
 
Glenjoy, if someone is convinced It can not be done, sure enough THEY can not do IT.

F. Guffey
 
Mr. Guffey, you miss the point. It's not that it can't be done. I can do it, and I suspect Mr. model can do it, but you don't want to have to pay me for what it would cost. I wouldn't make them for myself--I can buy them for way less than what my time is worth to make them.
 
I have lathe, mill, surface grinder, and tool and die grinding machine in my home shop and know how to set up to make headspace guages - even have drawings for some of them.

But I buy mine.

Some things (lots of things) just aren't worth the time, back pain, and painstaking work to do, especially with the ever present risk of blowing a cut for one of several possible reasons and having to start all over again.
 
Don't bother - those set up to do it in bulk are far cheaper - and better. OTOH, you can keep a dog and bark for yourself - if you really feel its neccessary - as well. >MW
 
Moosehunt, can not be done, because? I do understand, I will add another rational, he can not afford you, too expensive, I will add that to, He does not know how or he does not have the tools or he is not asking the correct person, I do not make excuses for me or someone else.

I went to Arlington, TX to pick up a mill I purchased from a collector, while loading the mill and parts he told me he was building an 03 needed to check the head space, I ask him how, he responded with a go-gage, I then told him the go-gage would only tell him the bolt will close, nothing else, the gage will not tell him how much head space the rifle has. We now knows his rifle, if built with the straight handle bolt, had from .006 to .0075 thousands if he fired the new Remington box of 20 rounds he furnished, I offered to allow him to change bolts and or ammo and if he needed one I could furnish one of 22 old new bolts if he thought changing the bolt would change head space, I told him I could call him and tell him the effect each bolt had on head space, I did tell him it would take me a few minutes to make a tool that would check his straight handle bolt, and I explained to him head space did not start with 'datum line', head space on the 30/06 starts with a hole of .375 thousands (3/8 of an inch),

There are all kinds of excuses for can't and shouldn't, I do not make many of them.

F. Guffey
 
Guffy--I read your post 5 times. I'm still not quite sure what you said, or intended to say. I'm not even sure if we're in agreement or disagreement. Want to try it in English?
 
remodel, the collector is very knowledgeable, an expert on Spring fields, the rifle he is building is going to be correct with all of the parts that belong to a rifles for a particular year, in the beginning Springfield built rifles with a straight handle bolt meaning the handle was not bent back, all Springfield bolts are bent down, the early bolts were bent down but not bent back, those are called straight handle bolts. I have one Rock Island 03 with a straight handle, I have 35 Springfield bolts that are replacement or issued with bent bolts, meaning the handle is bent down and back.

F. Guffey
 
moosehunt
"Mr. Guffey, you miss the point. It's not that it can't be done. I can do it, and I suspect Mr. model can do it, but you don't want to have to pay me for what it would cost. I wouldn't make them for myself--I can buy them for way less than what my time is worth to make them".

I did not miss the point and I did not ask you what you thought your work was worth. I make gages for chambers, case length, chamber length, it would appear I would be finished making them before everyone else stepped away from their computer or quit talking about it. Reminds me of someone cutting a chamber and saying "when someone cuts a chamber, they never know where they are, you gotta check often", I know when I am .017 under a go-gage, .010 under a go-gage or .002 under a go-gage because I make my gages, and I do not have an inflated value of what I am worth.

The man I purchased the mill from was telling me how difficult it was to get help with chambers and gages on the Internet, he said everyone got involved and thought they were more important than the other person, I agreed, I said they were a vain bunch, the first thing they start with is DATUM LINE and it only gets worst after that.

I helped him check his head space with a total of $11.00 in tools, never mentioned the DATUM LINE once, I then told him I could check head space on any rifle without a go-gage and do it with tools he had in his tool box.

I make a gage to check the gage that will check a fired case in thousands, I can do it, Glenjoy ask for dimentions, if you do not want to help him or if you do not have the dimentions just say so,

'glenjoy' "I am planning to make the following":

F. Guffey
 
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