Ideal weapons for college students, in class.

as long as he doesn't act a fool.

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Joe is making a veiled poke at saying that anybody who would carry an 870 might be ...


Now Be nice Joe D

Im gonna bet you always have afew textbooks in your backback and that wold make a formidable weapon. put three or four 5lbs books in there and your good to go.

one kid got arrested in high school for assault, he put a roll of quarters in his fist, that add weight and force so bam broke someones jaw (and his hand)

As a Geology student, I always felt justified in carrying a rock hammer.

i know

A pool ball in a tube sock is incredibly effective, i know from personal experience. One good whack on the side of the head will send someone to the ground instantly. Niether of these items are illegal, and it can give you some reach too.

I got hit with one in the head and had to get 6 staples. It instantly dropped me, was still able to see but couldn't move for a good 20 seconds. Very very painfull.

Get some pepper spray. Try to get the stuff the cops carry if you know someone. It is more potent, and works great, and it is usually legal depending on the state. I carry it all the time even though I have a handgun. I would rather spray them, then shoot them. Less Paperwork. Glenn

The first things that come to mind to me are...

An Emerson CQC-14 with Wave opener. 2.75" blade and full sized handle. Most places that place any restrictions on knives do so on blade length and that cut-off is 3". I carry one everyday.

The other thing that comes to mind is a Surefire E2D Defender. That scalloped bezel and tailcap could make one helluva impact weapon.

If you're interested in either, send me a PM.

Training.

Shorty soda cans

Ever huck a small soda can at something? One or two would be a great way to get someone to duck momentarily, while you take off running. A can in the face might put someone down for a while.

Held in the hand so you strike with the rim, it's nothing to sneeze at.

Best of all, you can take a small can of soda almost anywhere except through airport security.

Regards,
Dirty Bob

college security is prohibited from carrying anything. i just found out pepper spray also. so im better armed and breaking school policy....unkowingly. stopped carrying the oc and just leave it in glovebox for when i jog after school

college security is prohibited from carrying anything.

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my college security officers carry glock's there FAU police they have all arrest powers there pretty much cops. and when i was leaving NCC on long island n.y they were about to put peace officers on campus.

Another vote for simple thinking outside the box. Spend a few minutes doing this and you'll quickly realize that pretty much everything around you has the potential to be used as a weapon, as long as it has some mass to it, a sharp or pointy portion, or both.

You've got your belt, your textbooks, pens and pencils, backpack straps for grappling or chokeholds, the backpack itself (filled with heavy stuff, like the textbooks), table and chair legs (or entire chairs), and so on...

In HS, I kept an extra pair of socks and a can of soda in my backpack. As far as school officials were concerned, they were for after gym class; it was just coincidence that they'd make a great prison-style flail in a pinch. Didn't have a bike or a reason to secure my backpack, but if you do, a padlock on a length of chain as suggested would be more robust.

There really is no lack of potential impact or stabbing weapons in any sort of school or office environment.

In addition to the things I put in my earlier post, I forgot one.

a nice leather belt, with a good heavy metal belt buckle.

my buckle (thats on there now) is a good half pound almost.

There are weapons everywhere in even the most sterile of environments. The floor makes a pretty good weapon. So do the edges of doorways and tables. You don't always need something to hit him with. Make him hit the weapon. Use your mind.

PremiunSauces said: A cane? This is a college campus, not an old folks home. Great weapon, but what student is going to carry that around?

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Geronimo said: I did it with no questions asked . . . . People are ridiculously polite about apparent handicaps. They don't even want to ask about 'em. The only incident where somebody clearly noticed it and took action was when an older lady held open a door for me.
People don't pry very often.

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Absolutely. I've walked around doing my daily activities with a cane. And at the time I got it I was in my early 30's. People just don't pry about such things, it is considered socially rude behavior. I've even brought it through completely sterile environments, like my state house. Metal detectors, capitol police officers, the whole nine yards. I stood not 10 feet behind the governor, for 45 minutes, while he made his speech to the judiciary committee begging for more gun control. Not one of his state police bodyguards tackled me, said 2 words to me, or even looked at me strange.


As Joe said, a lot of it is about how you carry yourself.


College students can get away with a LOT of things people in other walks of life cannot. Take up sports. Carry your bat bag, or a golf club bag with you, because you're going to go practice after class. I can't imagine not being able to carry a folding knife to college classes. Take a good knife training class, and you'll be surprised at how effective you can be in your own defense.


Its tough when you're under 21, and can't get that permit. I was fortunate; I went to college as an adult learner. Took me 7 years to get that degree. In some states it isn't a crime to carry a gun on a college campus, in some it is. In mine its not. And I did. It wasn't a pocket pistol, either. No one noticed; people aren't just that observant. I just didn't talk about it. Yes, I took a risk. It was my choice and my decision.


But as was said earlier, a lot of it is how you carry yourself. Use your mind, and you'll discover you aren't as defenseless as you might think.

my school has school policy....and probably state law the soda and sock idea does sound good though

Not acting a fool means many things; Bullfrog Ken did an excellent job on the key point: Carry yourself well.
I've carried weapons into many places where they are forbidden over the last 30 years or so. I've never once had a problem because of it. I took pains to conceal my weapon. I didn't show it to anybody else or even mention it. I dress and act like a civilized person with a modicum of courtesy and intelligence. These are things I do even if I am not armed, BTW.
If you are an attention whore, drunkard, rageaholic, careless, or some other variety of fool, I think you should avoid the use of weapons entirely. Legalities aside, I disapprove of armed fools.

spuscg said:

my school has school policy....and probably state law the soda and sock idea does sound good though

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I hate to have to tell you this, Soda pop is not allowed in my school. That's right, you can't bring a can of soda pop to school. I wonder how it can be 2008 and 1984 at the same time.

One word of suggestion, while carrying any of the non-weapons is a good idea, I'd recommend checking your local laws before carrying anything that can be considered a weapon. That would include OC spray, a taser, or the aforementioned .500 Magnum billy club. That's kind of the beauty of a Geology student carrying a rock hammer, a P.E. student carrying socks and a Coke, or a student with a limp carrying a cane: They don't need prior approval.

One thing people overlook in classrooms is a regular old stapler. The kind that fold out make good impact weapons and if you hit them right leave a staple. and with about carrying yourself if you just act natural and don't draw attention you're normally fine. I live in a hictown and in the handbook it clearly prohibits knives but about a quarter of the male students, myself included, carry one and the teachers don't say anything as long as it stays in your pocket

alaskanativeson said: I hate to have to tell you this, Soda pop is not allowed in my school. That's right, you can't bring a can of soda pop to school.

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And what college is this, that will not permit soda inside the building? Remember, we're talking about college here, not public school.


Colleges may have silly policies, but soda inside the classroom is one I've never heard of. I've drank coffee in class, ate dinner at my seat, and even got up to go relieve myself without asking permission. Hell, I've stepped outside to smoke a bowl of pipe tobacco with my professors during breaks in class.

Banning soda from class? The professors would be among the first ones to rise up in protest of that silliness.

spuscg, how about just a plain old cane?

No sword blade hidden inside. No firing mechanism to shoot .50s out the end.

Just a plain old cane. With a solid brass head. Sitting on top of a titanium shaft.


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BullfrogKen said:

And what college is this, that will not permit soda inside the building? Remember, we're talking about college here, not public school.

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Sorry, my post was just meant to be a criticism of how far down the totalitarian ladder we've slipped in this country (didn't I post something about not being political in another topic? Bad Eskimo - no whale blubber for me.) I did, in fact, mean the public school where I teach.

The idea of a nice heavy book is a good one. Hell, make it a book about comparative literature, you can just read it to them and bore them to death. Seriously, very few people are going to stand up well against a good solid hit with a three inch thick Chemistry book.

I often carry my Cold Steel City Stick with the pistol grip handle (the middle cane in post #9 on page one.) I've carried it right through security at the airport without any problem. It's so strong I could probably use the shaft to pry a V8 engine out of a car, and the metal head is heavy and well suited to striking. Without getting into likes or dislikes of Cold Steel, their City Stick walking cane is great.

extra magazine?

Here's an idea, maybe it's silly, but I think it might work.

Get a magazine, any slick paper publication will do, but for "on-campus" I'd stick with something like Time, Scientific American, etc., not Penthouse (must be politically correct, you know).

Once you've read said publication, roll it (lengthwise) as tight as you can.
Wrap it up with two or three rubberbands. Now test it out by jabbing it into the wall in your dorm room or whatever - pretty rigid, no?

Now think about jabbing same into the face,eyes, or belly of some threat (if you are close enough) and if you contact exposed skin, twist!

A rolled up magazine, or I guess any sheaf of papers, in the hands of a college student presents a pretty innocuous picture, and could be an effective weapon.