SAD News-Boy killed with NFA weapon-in Mass.

How does one reply to statements like this one?

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Everyone is quick to condemn but what father hasn't done something with his son that could have turned out very bad? I agree with most that I'm not sure the boy should have participated, but we don't know everything and weren't there.

Isn't it enough that the father is going through a living hell right now?

My son broke his arm once while in my care and didn't like making that call to my wife even though we weren't doing anything dangerous and it was an accident. He slipped on the wet grass once and broke his collar bone while playing tag while with his mother.

MOST parents do their best but at the same time it is always possible to second guess every parent with 20/20 hindsight.

Those who believe would do better by praying for this father and his spouse!

This was a tragedy, for sure...

but we don't know enough details to place blame. Was he too young to participate? 20/20 hindsight says 'yes.' We don't know that the father didn't intend to hold the gun with both hands, and let his son just pull the trigger... maybe the kid just got ahead of his father. Was the safety on, or supposed to be on? How many adults were involved? What was the condition of the firearm? Who checked it? Who's firearm was it?

I can imagine a senario where the father is charging the weapon, unaware that his nervous son's finger is firmly on the trigger.

Did the father ever fire the gun? Or did he take the word of someone else, that this "little gun" would be a good start for his son?

I was going to post an article from the Springfield Union newspaper but they have changed it already. The earlier article this AM said the father was several feet to the rear with a camera. The company that was running the shoot was headed by a local Police Chief. One of their members was apparently the RO and supposedly overseeing the gun use. I have also seen that the father gave permission but was unfamiliar with the gun himself. He was an ER physician at Stafford Springs hospital in nearby Conn.

This boils down to adult supervision and not enforcing safety by only putting in one round until conforming that the youth could handle it.

a micro Uzi is potentially a very dangerous weapon as are all short barreled lightweight machine pistols and whoever was running the range should have had complete control of the weapon at all times and if in doubt say no.

wyocarp said:

My son broke his arm once while in my care and didn't like making that call to my wife even though we weren't doing anything dangerous and it was an accident. He slipped on the wet grass once and broke his collar bone while playing tag while with his mother

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Such things happen. But an unassisted Uzi (Micro possibly?) in the hands of an 8-year old? Should be a no brainer.

Some mistakes just shouldn't ever happen even once. Yes, the father is probably overcome with grief and guilt. Still, the boy will never exist again.

I've seen a grown man shooting himself in the hand with a FA Glock (on youtube). Machine pistols are just dangerous to shoot. Damn shame this happened.

I've seen a grown man shooting himself in the hand with a FA Glock (

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I saw that video,the VFG failed.

EDIT: he said it was legal, that's debatable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg543Jow

Yeah

well, when the ATF is involved (or the Fedgov for that matter), everything is debatable. The correct assumption is that everything is illegal.

The kid was at a MG shoot, what else would he want to do? You dont take your kid to Toys R Us and tell him he cant touch anything. Not saying toys are as safe as guns but the kid was probably begging to shoot one and the adult probably thought, oh that looks small enough (micro uzi) he should be able to shoot that. Also not saying we should listen to our kids every beg / plea but at no point did this adult think the outcome would result in death.

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Yeah, but there are so many better full auto guns that smaller people can shoot and shoot safely other than a 9mm Micro Uzi. There are smaller caliber and there are mounted guns where recoil control isn't nearly the same sort of issue for the shooter.

everyone here knows a little bit about guns and nobody suggested a micro uzi a suitable weapon for a child to try. IMHO any inexperienced shooter.
who ever was running the range should have had tighter control and suggested something mounted more suitable. If you going to open a shoot to the general public they should'nt be in a situation where there lack of knowledge could get them hurt