Obama on CNN says he will ban Assault weapons

I can't find that clip anywhere. When did he say it?

He said it in all the gun shops in all 50 states

or at least you would think it - I am not saying he won't do the Clintonian ban, but....

As someone said before, its the economy stupid. Bill Clinton 'went left' early in his Presidency with leftist healthcare, gays in the military, gun bans - and look what it got him - a nice shiny new congress in 94. If Obama is awake (yet to see), he will not do the same - but Michael Moore, Harry Reid, and Nancy P will beg him to do so.

Ant-gun is not really that politically popular right now, during a HARD recession, war, etc.

But, if you walk in a gun shop, you'd think the bill already passed.

Another problem here is that now that everyone went out and bought up all the M4s, AKs, etc., it may mean a DEARTH of sales for gunshop owners who need a SUSTAINED business.

Barry-O & Co. seem to have taken down their stated intent to renew the Assault Weapons Ban that was on display as part of his urban renewal plan at www.change.gov. While the two events may be unrelated, this occurred after the media coverage of record sales of guns and gun accessories [/hank hill mode], but if they are this may be a positive sign that Obama and DNC leadership are picking up the idea that coming after gun owners may have a political cost they're not able to pay while they try to consolidate power.

Still going to be uncertain times with Barry-O in the White House and his "change, change, change" chanting drones still going all lovefest (at least in the short term). The lower his approval ratings drop, the less likely he is to tackle controversy, so hopefully his cultists will realize how little he really has to offer quickly.

Obama won't have to push it forward. The 'rats have a knee jerk impulse to ban guns anyway, so it's inevitable that one of the far leftees will propose some sort of gun ban in the next congress and unless the committee chairs decide to stifle it, it will pass.

So, unless Obama or the party higher ups decide to work actively against it, out of fear of possible political fallout, we'll be looking at another ban. Now it could very well be that they will do just that. They remember '94 and what happened last time, but Obama is probably thinking right now that he has one hell of a mandate and oodles of political capital and with a strong 'rat majority in the house and senate he might just go for it.

can't find that clip anywhere. When did he say it?

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You gotta be kidding.

He even has it as stated agenda on his President-Elect website.

Reinstating the assault weapon ban and closing the so called "gun show loophole" are specifically stated as first term objectives.

The election is over, let's cut the crap and be honest here.

Then, after the heat was turned up, it was removed.

It's all over the media:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10093042-38.html

The comment you are referencing was made in 2007.

The only thing that will stop Obama is the potential political fallout associated with another assault gun ban. The question we should be pondering is, is he too much of an idealist to worry about political fallout?

If that answer is yes, then we will see some anti 2nd amendment laws coming down the pike after about one year. These laws will happen after this new administration realizes it can't solve all of the problems it promised to and will need to go after "fringe"/"fluff" issues to make it seem they are working hard to protect us.

So if you aren't member of the NRA or GOA, what are you waiting for?

TR, in light of him running from his agenda and trying to cover it up in the last few days, it's a quite fair question to ask - "Where is this alleged video of him recently speaking publicly about gun buns?" I seriously doubt that he did, but am as interested as anyone to know whether he did.

He even has it as stated agenda on his President-Elect website.

Reinstating the assault weapon ban and closing the so called "gun show loophole" are specifically stated as first term objectives.

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Like I noted a couple posts ago, the discussion of a renewed AWB and gunshow loophole disappeared off his website shortly after the media picked up the "guns are flying off the shelves as fast as customers can find their credit cards" stories.

Why? Maybe they're not related at all. Maybe Barry and his handlers realized his position looked like it was already going to cost them in the midterm elections. Maybe they think that taking it off the website will cool gun sales, meaning less out there when they do enact the new AWB. Don't know for certain, but the second option seems fairly probable given the way politicians try to divorce themselves from things that hurt their poll ratings.

TR, in light of him running from his agenda and trying to cover it up in the last few days, it's a quite fair question to ask - "Where is this alleged video of him recently speaking publicly about gun buns?"

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Obama's wish to reinstate the assault weapon ban has been documented by him and his election team for over a year in both print and audio/video.

To come in now after the election and be "surprised" that these things exist is just a bit ridiculous.

Obama stated many times in the last year that his agenda included both the reinstatement of the AWB and the repeal of the Tiarhrt Amendment.

Seriously, let's stop pretending these things are not out there and let's stop demanding 'proof' that they exist.

It's a 2 minute search on Google to find it in about 30 different places.

In case you haven't seen it enough, here is the text word for word from his change.gov website:

Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

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The election is over, why continue the charade? Obama himself isn't denying it anymore, why are so many of you?

Certainly no law is yet in place but it's pretty naive to play like it's not likely to happen, given that the new President and current Speaker of the House have it as their stated goals.

And of course it may NEVER happen, but that seems remote.

what would happen to domesticly produced guns? the 94 ban just removed flash hiders,bayo lug,etc.unless they add to it & make it illegal to produce them domesticly the biggest fear i have is the 500% tax on ammo, & stopping imported ammo; 100.00 a box for 30-06 ? 50 bmg at 25.00 a round;unless they ban & confiscate that altogether! if this happened i think the future of guns would be in 22lr, it would be the most affordable to shoot,with big bore for hunting or defense; what a disaster waiting to happen !

But he DID remove it from his website. He IS trying to hide it.

I'm with briang2ad and horsesoldier. The man is many things, but stupid certainly isn't one of them. He has a very limited window during which he can get things done with the majority in both houses. He's about to get a gut-kick reality check about how hard it is to get things done in D.C. Just to get done the 'high-priority' legislation he is planning is going to eat up a LOT of political capital. When he's done, I doubt he'll have the support, the favors, or the demand to start pushing an agenda that cost them both houses in 1994. Sure he'll WANT to, but he won't have the space to handle it.

2nd term is a different question.

The way you phrased it made it sound like he just said it. This isn't exactly news.

Seems if "assault weapons" are banned then they need to be banned from police too. After all, the Dams say they don't belong on our streets. Perhaps an outcry now to jerk them from the hands of police will show the Dams a wee bit more of the iceberg they are cruisin' up to. We, the People still have a voice - if we just use it.

See my thread on the "Activism" board.

He said it in all the gun shops in all 50 states

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or at least you would think it - I am not saying he won't do the Clintonian ban, but....

As someone said before, its the economy stupid. Bill Clinton 'went left' early in his Presidency with leftist healthcare, gays in the military, gun bans - and look what it got him - a nice shiny new congress in 94. If Obama is awake (yet to see), he will not do the same - but Michael Moore, Harry Reid, and Nancy P will beg him to do so.

Ant-gun is not really that politically popular right now, during a HARD recession, war, etc.

But, if you walk in a gun shop, you'd think the bill already passed.

Another problem here is that now that everyone went out and bought up all the M4s, AKs, etc., it may mean a DEARTH of sales for gunshop owners who need a SUSTAINED business

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Absolutely 100% pure accuracy!

CRITGIT

what I'm wondering is how he wants to make guns "childproof"...

More to think about....
www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=4227

I thought that he said it recently. He said it a good while ago, and still supports it, despite it being taken down from his agenda website.

The only question is whether or not he'll go for it, given how things are now.

but Michael Moore, Harry Reid, and Nancy P will beg him to do so

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i'd have to disagree there.
Harry Reid is from Nevada, and knows if he pushes for this - or even allows it to become an issue in the Senate, he's out on his rear. He's up for re-election in 2010, and is on thin ice as it is.
That said, no way in the world would he let Nancy Pelosi move on it and put him in that situation.
Michael Moore is completely irrelevant. He holds no public office, and he has become such a toxic personality, even on the left, very few law makers will consider his advice seriously.
After 2010 - it *may* become an issue. That will largely depend on who's in congress at that time, and what the state of affairs looks like. As it stands I really don't think Reid is going to be around next cycle either way. Not sure who's next up in line to lead the senate behind him.. should probably look into it..

There was also another piece this morning on CNN, with the same comments- AWB and repeal of concealed carry. It's coming...

AWB and repeal of concealed carry. It's coming...

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Well let's slow down there. Gonna be hard for a Democratic President and Congress to repeal STATE laws regarding concealed carry.

There is enough real life to worry about without adding the silly stuff.

Well currently guys they have an almost super majority and its gonna be darn hard to keep'em from doing what they want.

Well let's slow down there. Gonna be hard for a Democratic President and Congress to repeal STATE laws regarding concealed carry.

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Why exactly? From a states rights & constitutional standpoint I agree but we live in the real world.

One would say it would be hard/illegal for feds to tell states what speed limits they can have, but they did.

Here is a very EASY way to do it.

"The crime control & prevention act of 2009 (I just made that name up but it will sound like that"). Makes federal funding for states & local police programs (of which feds hands over BILLIONS) contingent on repeal of CCW and open carry.

That is 100% exactly how the feds "forced" a national speed limit. They never required the states to do it, they simply tied matching highway funds to a speed limit. No speed limit = no matching funds = billions of dollars lost to states. Every single state complied.

Should they be able to do that? No. I believe in a small fed govt. The reality is they do. As the fed gets bigger and bigger and budget gets bigger and bigger the idea of states rights becomes a sad joke.