Obama on CNN says he will ban Assault weapons

Talk of gun bans as a negative consequence from an (all but certain, be honest) Obama presidency was considered tooooo political here - before Nov 4.

Nothing's changed all that much (honestly, you expected a different outcome), yet now it's ok to talk about Obamination?

Like Oprah inviting Palin on AFTER 11/4.

Little too late now.

And don't say it was all pointless griping blah blah. If we can't express opposition to the most Marxist anti-gun candidate for president ever here, on a gun board that plays a key role in brining together our community, then...

It wasn't just mention of an AWB that was removed from Obama's new website. Details on all topics were removed from the "Agenda" page. Rather than trying to hide his gun control intentions, a more likely explanation is that he and his staff are just trying to prioritize all the issues currently facing our country.

And the CNN video cited above does not contain Obama saying anything about assault weapons. It's about the recent boom in gun sales and contains only the reporter's statement about Obama's previously stated positions.

I argued that we should be able to discuss it openly but before the election there was too much bickering about if this and if that and the discussions got nasty in a hurry.

Well, now it is reality not politics.

Obama IS going to be President, Congress IS going to be Democrat controlled, and both the next President and the Speaker of the House have on their agendas to pass an AWB and kill off gun shows.

That is the reality we now live in. It's not politics anymore.

Any chance the Obama apologists are going to stick around and eat their crow after the new AWB is passed?

I'll be watching.

On a sidenote, I'm with Texas Rifleman, why do some of you people continue the charade? The gig is up, Obama has been, is currently, and will be clear on where he stands on gun rights. HE ISN'T FOR THEM!

Someone's google-fu is weak. Found the statement in the cache.

Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

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Everything about the 2nd Amendment and our elected officials' stance on it is political.

I read an interesting article on a blog by a Leftie activist in the DPRK. It was his contention that the Dems majority is due largely to newbies elected in pro-gun areas in the last election. They aren't well enough ensconced to ignore the wishes of the voters and the Reid/Pelosi axis does not wish to see them unemployed and replaced by Republicans. The results of the '92 AWB have not been forgotten (1st time since the Pleistocene that the Speaker was un-elected) and they have more pressing issues that won't irritate a vocal and well-organized group like the Gunnies. Expect a surge in NRA membership. I don't have the link to the article, and it's too long to post, but things just may not be as dismal as they seem.

Found the URL. http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2008/06/noted_californi.html Interesting reading from a liberal.

Quite frankly, I fully expect an an attempt at a renewed AWB or something similar within Obama's first term, regardless of the other issues at stake.

Why? Gun control is a powerful political trick, and Obama has already proven that he is a savvy politician. It's comparatively easy to implement (simply draft it, pass it, and sign it into law), which makes it a convenient way to score political points. Never mind the fact that it targets a virtually non-existent "problem" (rifles in general account for only a tiny fraction of the murders committed in the US each year) or completely fails to address any of the underlying causes of gun violence - most voters are incredibly ignorant (even more ignorant than most of the politicians who represent them), and will naturally think that something is being done in their interest. To somebody who knows nothing, a "ban" on "assault weapons" sounds like a good idea. It has nothing to do with actually getting anything done - it has everything to do with getting votes and/or pushing ideologies.

Some of you are missing the point of trying to take rights away from you. In states where it has been added to the state constitution, the federal government can not take that right away from you.

In states where it has been added to the state constitution, the federal government can not take that right away from you.

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Uhh, transfer of firearms from manufacturer to dealer to end user is interstate commerce and is 100% under control of the Federal government.

If there is an assault weapon ban at a Federal level there is nothing a state can do about it.

It's not about totally taking the right away, they know they can't do that. But they can incrementally weaken it until it's a right no longer worth having.

"I can't find that clip anywhere."

Does that supprise you?

But they can incrementally weaken it until it's a right no longer worth having.

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Realistically that's spot on.

After the The Pat Act and Military Commission Act 2006 anything's possible!
How come nobody here is as outraged over the those bad boys . One stripped us od habeas Corpus...which is little more than the basis for our democracy.
I bet if it were the product of "that one" we'd hear about it!

CRITGIT

obama better worry about fixing our screwed economy and other things the USA needs
NOT worry about stripping the rights of HONEST LAW ABIDING CITIZENS
because he is messed up in the head when it comes to guns

Dang, where is RPCVyemen now? I thought obama wasn't a gun grabber?

Oh ok, maybe not a gun grabber, but a gun banner for sure.

Maybe the AHSA will save our black rifles?:banghead:

As of Nov. 4, the Looney Left is making policy on the federal level. Fact. Act accordingly. Joe

After the The Pat Act and Military Commission Act 2006 anything's possible!
How come nobody here is as outraged over the those bad boys . One stripped us od habeas Corpus...which is little more than the basis for our democracy.
I bet if it were the product of "that one" we'd hear about it!

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+10

This is my own personal view about our political system I will share with all of you.

Democrats seek to weaken the individual, Republicans seek to empower the Government, both work towards the same goal. Weakening the People.


There both doing the same thing, just going about it different ways, if this was a war on the people of the US, wouldnt the best stratagy be to weaken and divide us internally? Split us into two groups that hate each other, and foster the belief that the other party is trying to "ruin" the country. Think about it, and watch what both parties do. Didn't your mothers ever tell you not to trust a politician?

SHE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT JUST ONE OF THE PARTIES!!!

Ron Paul '12

Democrats seek to weaken the individual, Republicans seek to empower the Government, both work towards the same goal. Weakening the People.


There both doing the same thing, just going about it different ways, if this was a war on the people of the US, wouldnt the best stratagy be to weaken and divide us internally? Split us into two groups that hate each other, and foster the belief that the other party is trying to "ruin" the country. Think about it, and watch what both parties do. Didn't your mothers ever tell you not to trust a politician?

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Amen, + 100000000!!!

We as civil right supporters must be 100% diametrically opposed to BOTH wings of the Republicrat Uniparty, and 100% supportive of third party candidates, to the extent that they can get on the ballot.

Don't forget, guys, it will be the liberal MEDIA that will be pushing this assault rifle ban more than the politicians. Look for NBC, CBS, the Washington Post and so on to call upon "our nation's leaders" to ban "all those evil black rifles and handguns." What the media goons fail to understand is that, without a doubt, in a few more years we're going to NEED each and every firearm that we can lay our hands on when things suddenly start to really get bad because of economic problems around the world and outside of our country. For many years, people from overseas have looked at our nation like it was a piece of fruit ready to be plucked from the tree and consumed by them. I know because I've actually talked to and met some of those people...

Any chance the Obama apologists are going to stick around and eat their crow after the new AWB is passed?

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No, they'll either deny it ever happened or say George Bush did it. Witness the AHSA discussion.

because he is messed up in the head when it comes to guns

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..and the existing clowns are "messed up" in the head on everything else!
That's why Obamamania is taking over this country and the world.
Won't be hard to look good after the existing act...and that will have an effect on how the jury sees our issue.

CRITGIT

I hope he understand that "Assault weapons" are fully auto weapons, not semi auto AR15s...but then again who am i kidding...