Century C-15 Sporter

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Heaven forbid I have a Black Cat firecracker in my pocket and call it a stick of dynamite.

Neither are the same, although they share a similarity

your comparison is faulty. the only difference between an M-16 and a AR-15 is that one has select-fire abilities. other than that, they are the same rifle. the only thing a black cat and a stick of dynamite have in common is that they both make noise. EVERYTHING else between them is different. either way, nit picking is nit picking.
 
hey, he picked the fight. i just wanted input on a rifle im looking at maybe spending afew hundred bucks on. wanted to see if it was another cemte disaster.
 
See, this is why threads get locked. Settle down or I will go cut a switch!:D:D

BACK ON TOPIC:

I horsed around with the C15 at a local range. Guy let me run two mags through it. While not a testament to the weapon's long term servicability but it gave me a decent idea. The gun is POORLY finished, very bad coatings and such on it. Shooting, its a rack grade AR15. Its not a match gun, nor a DMR, but it got roughly 3 MOA with the poor ammo we were using. Maybe could do better, but the couple of handloads we ran through it didnt give any better than 3 MOA. It's fit wasnt bad, the parts were relatively well fitted and worked correctly.

As far as ARs go, it wasnt the best, but a far cry from some of the Olympics Arms ive fired, but not the best AR I've seen for the cost. If I had a choice between a New C15 or an old, very beat up Bushy, maybe I would choose the C15.
 
Doesn't seem like it's one of Century's disasters. However The C15 still suffers from Century's reputation.

Like I posted before, probably a good idea to do a hands on inspection before purchase. Check for upper/lower receiver fit, check the rear sight for looseness, etc.

Would appear that AR style weapons will have some degree of receiver play. The day I bought my Century, I also looked at half a dozen carbines(new, on the shelf). A few were relitively tight. The rest had some degree of "loosness". These were new AR style carbines mostly Bushmaster and Del-ton. Honestly seemed that the Del-Tons were tightest, but of the two or three of those on the rack, the receiver tightness still varied a bit.

True, the C15 is a Century refurbed M16. Probably used and abused in Columbia's(or some other) drug war. Does have wear on some parts thats noticable, even some refinished parts have noticable wear. My front sling swivel is noticably worn. The edge of my forward assist is slightly worn. Bolt and carrier is definately used. A close look at the receiver(upper) shows it to be bead blasted and refinished.

She's a refurb. Looks like a new rifle to most folks, preforms like a new rifle too. Mine seriously preforms beyond expectations. I would doubt a brand-new off the rack standard AR of whatever brand could do any better than the one I got. I doubt I could have built one for less money that shoots better(maybe with a match grade really fat barrel?).

If you just want a shooter without the hassle of scrounging up an upper, lower, maybe furniture and lower receiver parts, then maybe the C15 is for you. For about $150-200 more you can buy a brand new Del-Ton(my original choice until the Century came along).

Piecing one together was going to cost me almost exactly the same as the C15 cost, maybe just a bit more(the Century cost me $600 plus tax).

I now have an AR 15A2 heavy barrel sporter that for all intents and purposes does what I want, don't jam and is accurate.

It is true that possibly my bolt carrier screws could shear off(they look fine), my firing pin could break(may have fired tens of thousands of rounds), hammer might snap off(do they do that?), or whatever else failures may come from the used parts. However, I think it unlikely, the rifle works great. I do think I will get some parts just in case, but I would probably buy some spares anyway, commen sense demands it even for a new rifle.

I don't quite get the firecracker/dynamite thing, but don't give a hoot anyhow! My AR works and does it well. Looks fine, and every shooter I know who doesn't have an AR is envious. Thats all I need.
 
One of the advantages to the specimens I've seen is that you could use the bolt carrier's inside Century-cut edges as an improvised razor blade.

With some caulking and a bit of work, the magazines might also make good backup personal flotation devices.
 
I would like one as a beater, (one i don't care about) but at the price listed I feel I could get an Olympic for almost the same price. Atlantic Arms has a 16" for $599, I don't know Olympics' rep, but I have seen the C15 and it is crap (too me.) I may be wrong and it may perform well. I have 2 Century Arms an AK and a CETME, and I have not had any problems out of either. Though I will not spend more than $399 for an Century.
 
I purchasede a Century C-15 and am happy with the rifle. It functions fine and is accurate for me (2 moa with iron sights and old eyes). There were two "problems" with mine:

1) the "ears" on the fromt sight were slightly ground - this may have occurred during shipping as the grinding was very rough like it was drug across concrete.

2) the Colt upper has the larger hinge pinhole allowing the lower to move slightly from side to side - $3.12 bushing from Brownells will fix this.

I have seen several at Gunshows and have not noticed the Lower wobble that mine has. I could return the rifle of course but it just is not worth the hassle or expense to me.
 
As part of the post-election gun rush, I decided to go shopping for an AR. Never really felt the need for one before - I'm more of a mil-surplus & hunting arms sort of gun buyer - but the idea that something may not be available in the future does funny things to a person.

Anyway, I found myself looking at a rack of about 7 AR rifles, ranging from $630-ish (the Century) to about $1200 (Colt). Considering AR a fairly standard platform and not knowing the difference, I leaned toward the lower price. I also liked the longer barrel of the Century vs. the 16" barrels on all of the others. The salesman didn't offer much help - he suggested that Century was trying to break into the market. To his credit, he wasn't particularly enthusiastic about the Century, but didn't give solid reasons for avoiding it, either. I ended up buying the Century.

Although I failed to do research beforehand, I started looking up the rifles after the fact and found some negative comments on this thread and other places. My best research is that the rifle is a de-militarized M-16 with a Century manufactured lower. After reading on it I did some looking, and sure enough the bolt carrier has been ground off as described. It has a few sharp edges, but not as shoddy as I might have expected from other reports.

The fit of the upper to the lower seems tight, with no rattling to my notice. The forward handgrip/barrel shroud does rattle a bit, but no biggie. On fit & finish I don't have any disappointments. I haven't taken the rifle to the range yet, but am looking forward to finding out how it performs.

I am wondering, is there any difference between the M-16 and AR-15 uppers? That is, if I should replace the ground bolt carrier with a new carrier assembly, would a mil spec AR-15 carrier work? If I replace the fire control group, is there anything I should look for in replacement trigger parts/assemblies?
 
Supposidly the first Century C15 rifles had cast Olympic receivers. The newer ones supposidly CMT receivers. Whoever made the receiver, it appears identical(markings aside) to the receiver on a friends new Del Ton carbine. Has same or quite similiar machine marks internaly would indicate the receivers came from the same source CMT or whoever else.

I personaly am not too worried about the bolt carrier or the supposid sloppy machine work. Mine looks fine. I do think I might invest in a new firingpin and maybe some of the other small parts. My rifles firingpin is definately used. Looks fine, but firingpins are cheap.

No real difference between civilian and military uppers except the carrier itself. There are pics online that show the difference between a M16 and Ar15 carrier. Century has milled the carrier to civilian spec, but the carrier is still a bit different than civilian.

Don't know about the trigger group parts. I do know that several styles of AR hammers exist.

I've fired my rifle alongside a new Del Ton Carbine(16 inch carry handle gun, a buddy's), and a sorely overpriced Armalite tactical carbine(my future son in law's gun). The Century preformed just as good or better on targets. The shorty's suffering from being "short". There is obviously some advantage to having some distance between the front and rear sights, likely accounting for somewhat superior accuracy from the C15. Thats no scopes on any of the guns.

My best shooting has been with Monarch 55 gr. softpoints. Worst with Remington 50gr hollowpoints. Most 55gr ammo will shoot into an inch or less at 100 meters shooting the rifle scoped. The 50 gr ammo seemed less accurate, shooting 1 1/2" to 2 1/4" groups at the same distance. Thats with careful shooting with a Leupold scope on the carry handle.

I had expected the Century rifle to have a 1-9 twist barrel. I had seen them advertised online as having new 1-9 twist barrels. My C15 has a 1-7 twist barrel though.

I have fired close to 900 shots of various military ball, commercial ball, and commercial soft and hollowpoint ammo so far. Maybe more. I quit counting when it became obvious I wasn't likely to have any issues with my new(sort of new) rifle.

I bet your C15 will be fine. Most guys that actually own one seem to like them. The ones that don't have them are the ones that don't like them.
 
I'm a cheap guy, so I built my own budget AR by scouring the equipment exchange over at AR15.com. It works great, albeit a mixmaster of Colt (BCG, upper, and furniture), Bushmaster (barrel), DPMS (lower), and RRA (LPK). Mixmasters can and do work just fine. Just got to make sure the mix of parts you do get is not all junk. Heck, a lot of my stuff is mil-surp - furniture is all used M16 stuff, upper is an M16A1 upper, bolt is from an M16 - but it's all in good shape. I did get a new barrel, lower, and LPK, though. The point I'm getting at is that stuff pulled from service guns will often be in perfectly good shape - just got to check it to be sure.

I would definitely consider a Century if I was looking to buy a pre-built rifle. However, as with all Century builds, the caveat is that you need to look them over before buying - just like the WASRs, gotta make sure you don't get screwed coming and going.
 
Election week was crazy locally. I went in to grab some weaver bases and I saw a Century "Centurion" for $499.
I took a number to wat for an hour in case noboby else bought it, the new AR's were flying out of there.

I just wanted a shooter and when they called my number I checked it out. The "Centurion" was a Century AR imported previously. It was marked CIA Centurion 223, the clerk tried to tell me it would only shoot 223 and not 5.56! The cm on the upper gave it away as a Colt with a 20" heavy barrel.

The thing functions perfectly and is sub MOA with Federal bulk 223. One of the best deals I've ever gotten from a brick & mortar. Lost my original HBAR in the 90's due to a divorce and this one shoots brings happy memories of prairie dog slaughters in Montana.
I also have a Century CETME that functions perfectly and shoots really well.

Century is cool in my book.
 
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