Firearms that take a beating, but keep going

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I would have to agree with Glock, and Ak's, when Glock first intoduced their handguns, they were promoted as being indestructable, us older members remember way back, the buzz on glocks prior to when the NYPD went with them was they were made of some newfangled plastic, that didn't show up in xray machines, and never needed cleaning or wore out. It was a very good marketing technique, false but very creative. Many people bought their Glocks because of the partial truths that were being pushed out by the company and it's promoters. I bought one in 1993,because all my friends at the time kept raving abot the gun. Also at the time there weren't that many choices for auto's other than a Deltonics, or Hi-power, if you wanted an auto that you could carry . Also the AK's have kind of the same rap, the indestructable easy to feed, inexpensive rifle that is used by terrorists and enemys of the USA. It's all salesmanship. The truth no longer natters, I read it on my iphone, lol
 
gym,

I'd like to see an old ad by Glock claiming their gun wouldn't show up X-ray machines. That's Internet BS until you prove it. It's hard to believe anything you say when you say mess like that.
 
JWF III, the 870 is a damn fine shotgun, it's relatively inexpensive, and your torture test just goes to show the versatility it provides.

I've never had a problem with the 870, if there's work or shooting to be done, it always steps up to the plate. For the price and reliability, you don't feel bad abusing it and you don't regret the purchase!
 
i believe its more about what the gun is made of for durability not so much of name brand. stainless steel will last longer then your lifetime , when taken care of.
 
After all this bad treatment, the action is much smoother now than when I got it. A Dremel and a grinding wheel, along with polishing compound helped.

Wait, so you clean it once a year and use it as a boat paddle, but took the time to polish the action?
 
Most military weapons both foreign and American made will last forever under normal designed use without cleaning and continue to fire. I have a SKS that I brought back from the rice patties of vietnam that remains as captured 38 years ago. It was fired yesterday by 4 or 5 different people without a failure.
 
John Wayne said-Wait, so you clean it once a year and use it as a boat paddle, but took the time to polish the action?

Yes I did. The only reason I did this was to smooth up the action. Polishing an action has absolutely nothing to do with the outward appearrence of the firearm. When I say I polished the action, it was more like grinding the action. I made square corners round, and I staightened out (as much as safely possible) the curves. In all reality, all I did was what 500,000 rounds would have done. All I did was speed it up with a helping hand.

As it stands now, I can shoot that gun faster and more accurate than all my friends shooting semis. Heck I can shoot it faster than I can shoot my Franchi 912, the only reason I choose the Franchi over it is the fact that the 870 won't take 3 1/2" shells. Now I have to admit that a lot of this comes from much practice (especially the accuracy). But in polishing the innards of the action, all I do is keep constant rearward pressure on the foregrip when I shoot. As soon as the hammer falls, and the catch is released, the foregrip (and the bolt) start the process of cycling. Before I did this, constant rearward pressure would just keep the action locked. I'd have to take pressure off, then cycle the action. This would cause me sometimes 1/2 a second (or possibly more) in delay, which is enough time to get off a target flying anywhere from 20 to 70 mph.

I've had friends want me to do the same to their 870s. I refuse as I'm not a gunsmith, I just tinker with my own guns. I figure that I can always improve on what the factory puts out, as I don't have to worry about my lawyers.

Wyman
 
I would have to say a Sig Sauer. They are a tried and true gun. The will stand the test of time and at the end they will still work. I know a lot of people con plane about the price of a sig. It is just like a car why is a jag more then a kia? The jag is a better car the Sig is a better gun. If that was not so they could not sell them for twice of what they can a S&W. I know some people will not agree with me but that is what make America great.
 
What are some firearms that can take a beating and keep on going? What can be shot thousands of times, cleaned rarely/if ever, last years, and still fire flawlessly? Some stories or pictures would be interesting, as well.
my xd service model, alomost 11k rounds through it, never a sinlge gun reltated malfunction. i have carried comppeted, shot and trained with it alot, lots of times 500 +rds in one outing. i tourture tested the heck out of it too.

oh yeah and glocks they run and run too.
 
possum, I agree, I also have XD40 sub compact with 5000 or so rounds thru and not on failure of anytype. Thats on Wichester white box target and wolf ammo. My M&P's won't fire it without a few FTE failures on every range day
 
Not one that often gets into civvie hands, but the Ma Duece (M2 .50 HMG) has got to be one of greatest and most reliable guns ever built. My personal M2 in the sandbox was orginally built in 1947, factory refurbished after Korea, twice during Vietnam, again in 1994, and most recently in 2007 before deployment to Iraq.

While overseas she fired countless thousands of rounds, survived half a dozen IED strikes, was dropped off a 14 foot truck at least twice, and never hiccuped. She worked in the snow (stateside), monsoon rain, and 120 degree sandstorms. I remember scraping off a half-inch of oily muck from the inside of the reciever after long missions and having to wash out my IBA because it was black with carbon that blew off the gun while firing.

Accurate as hell too.
 
Ah, is it OK to clean my Glock every couple of weeks of carrying on duty? ;) I know I don't have to but I just don't want to give Murphy ANY opening that I can avoid. So is it OK to keep it cleaned? Also, I try to clean the Uzi Eagle every couple of weeks of carrying on duty, too. Also, I clean each thoroughly efter every trip to the range. Is that acceptable practice even if it isn't completely necessary? I don't want to hurt their feelings and make them think I don't appreciate them. :cool: I still clean a weapon like the Gunny at Quantico taught me in '71. The barrel I clean by pushing oiled patches through it till the patch comes out as clean as it went in. Then I push a couple of dry patches through. I clean everything in/on the slide and frame that I can get to with oiled patches till they come up clean. Gun oil is cheap and patches run 1/2 cent apiece at WMart.

BTW, I saw a piece on TV about Glocks once and Gunny Ermy said he put over a thousand rounds through his Glock (don't remember the model) without cleaning it and it still worked perfectly.
 
Ma Deuce

Speaking of the Ma Deuce, my son (who was in Sandbox 1) tells me it is heck on camels. Tends to PO the owner of said beast, too, a mite. :rolleyes: I suspect that a noticable part of the money spent in Sandbox 1 - and likely even today - was to pay off owners of livestock that somehow wandered into the path of a .50 cal MG round. There's a viral video that purports to show a sniper using a Barrett .50 in the Rockpile complete with footage taken of the "aftermath". IMS it wasn't especially a pretty sight - if you belong to the class of people likely to catch one of those rounds.:p

Cyborg
 
Cheap ones Hi Point

Mid Range Ruger or Glock

High Price most 1911's

That's not near all or the basics but those are the ones I will swear by and have experience with, I know theres a lot more.
 
AR's ,HK's, Glocks,AK's, XD's,mini 14's, and on and on........I don't belaive I can think of a single manufacturer that producers unreliable guns, and are still in business today.

We are fotunate to live in a time with such high quality and great diversity in firearms.
 
I'd concur with the Glock vote. I've got a friend that swears that after every third IDPA match or so he runs his G17 through a full cycle in the dishwasher.....
 
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