sword canes

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anyone have any experience with them? are they a good idea for self defense?
are there any laws against carrying them. btw, im not going to be using one, im just interested in why i never hear of anyone using one
 
iilegal in ny, I own one more as a novelty than a serious self defence weapon. a walking stick would work just as well w/o all the legal hassles

Dan
 
They're not very good for SD because of two reasons.

First, their being illegal in most jurisdictions.

Second, because almost all of them are trash (unless you're willing to pay hundreds of dollars).

If you want more details on illegality and quality you only need to search the previous threads on sword canes. The results can be distilled down to "Illegal trash" for the most part.
 
Why do you need a sword when you can use the cane to beat the snot out of someone?
 
A stout hickory stick, vigorously applied to bony parts of an aggressor's body ought to get their attention.

Legal in airports, cruise ships, etc.

Training, other than private one-on-one isn't easy to come by though.

salty
 
If you've never seen Cold Steel's 2-DVD set "Stun, Stagger, Stop" then you might wanna look for it. Available new on flea-bay for about $50 - 60, it's a great treatment of simple yet effective techniques without years of martial arts experience.

Oh, sorry - it's about how to use a walking stick / cane for personal self-defense. Defend against multiple attackers, edged weapons, and blunt impact weapons. You can get more details on the Cold Steel website, natch.
 
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When I was on the Macon, Georgia PD, City Ordnances made it illegal to possess a sword cane or a slingshot, fly a kite inside the city limits or wash a horse on the streets, highways or byways of the city or to hoot, shout or whistle between the hours of 10:00PM and 6:00AM. or to have a vehicle which would emit flame from the tailpipe. I was never able to catch anyone violating any of these ordinances although I did keep my eyes peeled. Oh, I did make a few cases for "disorderly with a stick" (really, I did!)
 
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Thor,

I'll be the guy driving down Main St. whistling Yankee Doodle at midnight in a NOS-equipped 350Z with a kite tied to the spoiler. Don't forget to wave... :neener:
 
Tac Ninja,

Don't forget your horse trailor with a local highschool cheerleader's car wash volunteers scrubbing down your tactical clydesdale.

The bit about flames from the tail pipe BTW has nothing to do with NO. Prehistoric car punks (like dear old dad, who plans to drive his '53 Ford rag top to Silver Springs Florida next weekend)of the late 1940's , fifties and sixties would hook up a spark plug near the tail pipe that would ignite any un burned gas in the exhaust as it entered the last inch or so of tail pipe. There was some danger of blowing the exhaust pipe off if there was a leak up stream somewhere. Looked neat. Sounded neat. Bothered folks that thought hot cars and rock&roll were the Devils tools.

To keep it on topic, I once saw a slim cane that Bat Masterson might have carried if offered to him made from a turned down steel rod and darkly blued.The head was brass also turned and it had a cheap rubber cane tip on it. I think being wacked with it would have been quite an annoyance and dis pite the tip rather imagine recieving a thrust from it might provide you with additional drainage holes.

Unfortunately most places also list weighted cane right there next to sword canes and slung shot.

-Bob Hollingsworth
 
I'd much rather have a stout, solid piece of hickory. A solid impact weapon is much more likely, IMHO, to give an immediate stop than a skinny stabbing sword that looks like a fencing epee. What I'd make if it were legal in Texas is a sword umbrella, with a German sword bayonet blade instead of a skinny, edgeless epee blade.

Sword canes are one of those things that seem like a great idea at first but don't work very well in the real world.

Regards,
Dirty Bob
 
Sword cane vs S&W

Anyone remember this incident? I'm fuzzy on the details, but I think it took place about '02 or '03 in the DFW area. Happened in the parking lot of a medical office complex. Two OF's got into a dispute over a handicapped parking slot, and the one who didn't get it got irate; went after the other with his cane and unsheathed the sword, the other one trumped that with a pistol so Zorro ran into the building to call the police - MAN WITH A GUN! When the police got there, the guy with the gun told his side, showed his CHL, and he went home that afternoon...Zorro told his side, SHOWED them the cane, and went to jail.
 
I just don't understand the appeal of these. If you're not ACTUALLY crippled or ACTUALLY over 70 years, you're going to look completely out of place carrying one; more obvious than a giant fanny pack with "Mall Security" tatoo'ed on the front would give away a pistol. So doesn't that limit the market / appeal to a very small segment of the self-defense minded public? I mean, is someone going to actually FAKE a leg injury and walk with a limp just to use one of these? I just don't get it. :confused:

But if you fit one of those two categories, and it's legal, then I don't know why you wouldn't be willing to pay hundreds for one. I pay hundreds for quality swords, and they don't even have the cane with them!
 
I just don't understand the appeal of these. If you're not ACTUALLY crippled or ACTUALLY over 70 years, you're going to look completely out of place carrying one; more obvious than a giant fanny pack with "Mall Security" tatoo'ed on the front would give away a pistol.
We disagree on this one. I see canes in the hands of all age groups all the time, and with the Americans with Disabilities Act in the U.S., almost no one dares to ask a question about a cane in someone's hands.

Here's my recent comment on the topic from EDC Forums:
I find that plain, crook-top canes are invisible in the hands of most people, even physically fit males. The important thing is to be totally relaxed with it, like it's a college student's backpack or something. It's gotta be something that has become part of you. I don't fake a limp. I've worked the cane into the rhythm of my stride. No one has ever asked me about it, but if they did, I'd simply explain that I've injured my right knee in the past, and that it sometimes acts up, especially when I'm tired. I carry the cane as a precaution.
-- Dirty Bob

Regards,
Dirty Bob
 
I also disagree with canes sticking out. I see people occasionally who obviously don't need a cane for regular movement, and it doesn't give me pause at all, though to be fair, I pretty much assume it is less cane and more whacking stick.

I owned a sword cane for the novelty aspect of things one time, and I have to tell you that other than the fun of threatening my roommate at the time with it occasionally (in fun), it struck me as a relatively dumb concept in terms of any real world applications.
 
Agreed it's as much the law as anything -

Agreed it's as much the law as anything - FREX in CA it's a one year mandatory for possession - I'd hate to be a house sitter for the man who has one.

I have a sword staff that's sort of a joke in that although the blade is a very good piece of 1095 steel properly tempered it adds nothing to the cover for most defensive purposes - offensive or ambush that might be a different story.
 
You probably don't hear about them simply because they aren't cool. What macho tough guy want's to walk around with a cane all the time? He'd much rather have a glock or an auto opening knife or maybe a stun gun. They're cooler. And they can go in you're pocket.

BTW, sharp things don't stop an attack very well. They have no stun effect. Heavy blunt objects can stop a person in their tracks. You can stab and slash someone several times and they may not even feel it until minutes later...even if their intestines are hanging out.
 
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