When You Think About It...

As long as any country has an army or a police force there will be SOMEone SOMEwhere making new guns.

Even if all the gunmakers and gun sellers in the world closed up shop today there are still enough used guns in the U.S. for each of us to have a couple dozen.

Even if all the "private" guns in the U.S. were collected and turned to scrap, one could still get a gun and ammo by simply finding an officer or solder and taking theirs away from them.

Like many, many hunters/shooters, I already have enough cartridges and handloading components stockpiled to shoot/hunt for the rest of my life without ever spending another cent on factory cartridges or components.

So do we really need gun compaines today with their overpriced merchandise that really offers nothing we can't have from models of 50 or 100years ago? Is there really any need at all to buy a new gun?

Personally, I would much rather help out a neighbor by paying a premium price for one of his guns he was selling because he needs the money for his family than go spend my money to enrich some U.S.-hating foreigners who are peddling guns through some "big box" chain store they own in the U.S., and who probably pay their American employees minimum wage with little or no benefits.

So the moral of the story is: Buy Used and tell Walmart and Academy and Dick's and Cabela's and the conglomerate gunmakers to go eat mud.

"what about the US gun makers? you would deny them too???"

What do we need them for ? To overcharge us for things we don't need ? To continually drive up the price of used guns? NOT !!:banghead:


"I predict thread lockage before post 33 anyone care to take bets?"

You can only hope (and suggest, as you have), Krochus. But since most threads wind down on their own before the 33rd post anyway, I doubt your bet will draw many takers.

Here is sort of an example of the possibilities...

Yesterday I visited a shooting range that used to be more of a gun shop. But now they just want to do the range and gunsmithing business. They had about 10 guns for sale - all "trade-ins" from special orders.
Among the guns were two Winchester Model 70s - a .243 and a .30/06.
Both were the terrible models of the mid-60s - pressed checkering, cruddy lacquer finish, blah wood, etc. and both showed a substantial amount of wood and metal wear though neither had any real drastic scars. There was no rust on either and the actions were both passably smooth. The bore on the .243 was decent. Obviously they are not rifles I would brag about but here is the clincher... I could have bought either one for $250 plus tax !

Thinking about that as I drove off, I almost went back and bought the .243 (and may still do it). Think of the difference between $250 and $850 for a new model 70. $600 difference ! How could a new one possibly be (or shoot) $600 better??????

Granted the model 70s of that era were "klunkers" in a comparative sense. But they are still likely to fulfill all the needs of a hunter except bragging needs.

Just think, a "newbie" (or anyone) could walk in there and buy all the deer rifle they would ever need for $250 !!! That sure leaves a lot money left for good glass !!!

Wake UP, America !

LOL!

If you call paying more money for cosmetic and "on-paper-only" so-called "improvements", then I guess Tex1911 is right. If you call worrying about parts for guns that haven't broken since 1911, then I guess Tex1911 is right.

If you call hundreds or thousands of Americans working and wasting themselves in "Retail Jail" at Dick's or Sportsman's Warehouse in order to enrich their Chinese owners/investors, then I guess Gus is right.

If you call mindlessly clinging to the Status Quo "enlightened" even when it means paying 5 times as much for a new .30/06 as you would pay for one made 50 years ago, I guess Tex1911 and Gus are right.

If you call thinking and living "inside the box" enlightened, say "Hi" to Tex1911 and Gus for me.




Zundfolge.... GREAT article !!!!