Which RKBA organization to support?

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I have never financially supported an RKBA organization before, but I'm thinking it's about time I do. So, since I don't know much about them...

What are the pros and cons of the NRA?

What other national RKBA organizations are there?

How do the others compare to the NRA?

Please help me make sure my money is well spent by answering these questions as well as adding any other information you feel is important. Thanks!
 
The NRA is the most powerful voice we have in Washington, D.C. Some gun owners despise the NRA as they solicit for money to help fight the gun grabbers. (Lobbying and filing lawsuits ain't hardly done on the cheap!)

Other gun owners despise the NRA because the NRA has never been 100% successful in stopping every single piece of anti-gun legislation that is filed and passed by the gun grabbers. (It doesn't matter that the NRA is successful in many of its lobbying efforts.)

I'm not putting down other pro-Second Amendment organizations, but the NRA is definitely the "Bull Scorpion" in fighting the gun grabbers.

FWIW.

L.W.
 
(This is my opinion only. If you disagree, that's fine - you won't change my mind)

If you are going to give your money to only ONE organization, the NRA is it. They have faults, but they make the most concentrated effort towards doing what needs to be done. They're large, powerful, and are your best bet for "making your dollars count".

The GOA is probably second on the list, in my mind.
 
NRA is great, SAF is another one. I'd steer clear of GOA and for God's sake don't fall for the trick that AHSA is a pro gun group.

That said, you might look into state organizations as well. I know money is tight, but this stuff starts at home.

Frankly where we are, right after a national election, you might be more helpful at the local/state level.
 
some gun owners despise the NRA because their strategy has always been "compromise/concede". others despise them for trying to torpedo cases like D.C. vs. Heller, which they tried to stop originally.
 
JAHWARRIOR - "some gun owners despise the NRA because their strategy has always been "compromise/concede"."

"Always?" What nonsense.

There are times when a terrible anti-gun bill is going to be passed by the do-right-daddies and do-right-mommas of D.C., no matter what the NRA does. But the NRA has been able to lobby certain Congressmen and Senators to modify the bills somewhat to not be so restrictive as originally intended. Those so called "compromises," are necessary to keep from having totalitarian restrictions instituted.

As I said, the NRA can not stop every single bill offered by the left wing radicals of D.C.


JAHWARRIOR - " ... others despise them for trying to torpedo cases like D.C. vs. Heller, which they tried to stop originally."

The NRA was very afraid that with the makeup of the Court, that the Heller Case would go five/four AGAINST us... and it very nearly did. I was surprised it was somewhat in our favor, although certainly open to States being able to pass highly restrictive laws against us gunowners.

We barely squeaked by with a finding that we at least, have a Right to "keep" a handgun for self defense. (Note there was nothing in Scalia's ruling that established anything about a Right "to bear arms." Just "keep" one in your home.

This fight is going to intensify exponentially now that The Great Lord Obama, The One Mighty And Strong, The Savior Of Mankind, is to be coronated. Remember that the left wing radicals of Congress and the Senate, never, ever, disengage.


So, JahWarrior, if you choose to despise the NRA, that is your choice and your right. I and other NRA members choose to support the NRA. As I said, the NRA isn't perfect but it is still the Bull Scorpion for gun Rights in D.C.


L.W.
 
I belong to the NRA and the SAF. The NRA is the 600 pound gorilla in terms of lobbying, but could use more members. Better to be an 800 pound gorilla. The SAF seems to focus on litigation. I think it makes sense to concentrate on both forums.
 
I felt the need to take action considering the upcoming political nightmare that is about to take office. I was going through my gun boxes last week and found an NRA membership card. $25 for 1 year. I signed up. The check is in the mail. I'm glad I joined.
 
The NRA isn't perfect. Neither are other RKBA organizations. However, the NRA IS the most powerful of the organizations and most likely to have the MOST political leverage.

Instead of steering away from the NRA, we should encourage people to donate BOTH to the NRA and other organizations that may closer represent his or her issues.

Bashing the NRA only serves to FURTHER divide and damage us when we need unity MORE than ever!


So, my short answer is:


-Join the NRA
-Now join one more that fits your niche interests.


I am a member of several RKBA organizations for one reason or the other.

-- John
 
The RKBA movement fights on two fronts; the cultural front and the legislative front. I suggest that you decide which you feel most strongly about, and join an organization that focuses on that area.

I happen to think that we need both cultural as well as legislative support, so I belong to organizations (like the NRA) that have both shooting sport/education sides as well as lobbying arms.

To support the RKBA movement, I believe that everyone's first step should be to join a state-level RKBA organization. Most of the laws that impact you as a gun owner come from your community, so that's probably the best place to start. I am, for example, a member of the Texas State Rifle Association. They support a lobbyist in Austin as well as supporting shooting events around the state.

Once you've done that, you should consider joining a national-level RKBA organization. I prefer the NRA for a number of reasons, but the key is to pick the ones that appeal most to you and just JOIN. Sometimes, you'll see threads from folks just pining in angst over which one to join, in an Internet version of Analysis Paralysis. I think that it matters less WHICH one you join so much as it matters that you join at least one. Getting in the fight is the most important part; you can always join other groups if your interests grow/shift.

Once you've joined, don't forget to opt in/out of future contribution mailings; some organizations (e.g. NRA, Greenpeace, Amnesty International) are really good at the mass mailings that solicit for more funds and it can get annoying. If you're not interested in getting these mailings, it'll save the organization some money (and you from having to trash the junk mail) to opt-out.
 
rbernie,

You have it exactly right. Make a short list of what's important to you relative to our shooting world. For me that list would include political analysis and lobbying, education, youth development. Others might care more deeply about competitions, deep technical insight, or sales. There's plenty of organizations for both.

Take your list, find an organization who has the same list as their goals and join them.

Anyone who thinks the NRA is not the prime political machine in our world doesn't understand what's going on. Such primality should drive one's investment in membership.

For what it is worth, I'd like to make a recommendation. I strongly suggest we focus on the positives regarding RKBA organizations. Nothing is gained and much is lost by marking down an org in recommendations. Stay positive. If you think another organization is better, say so. Don't overly criticize anyone on the our side of the fight.
 
The NRA, for all its faults, is the leader in this field. After you join, if you have money left, consider your legislators... if there is one that you believe supports RKBA support him/her with contributions (don't have to be a lot) and occasionally remind them in letters and e-mails of your concerns. While the legislators don't usually read those letters, staffers do, including summarizing the more interesting ones and keeping statistics.

As citizens we all have the right to lobby our government directly, and dozens or hundreds of letters from constituents mean more to most than another communication from the NRA or any other group. It means that much more when they know (and believe me the staffers know) that the writer took a little money out of pocket to reinforce their views and opinions.
 
I strongly suggest we focus on the positives regarding RKBA organizations. Nothing is gained and much is lost by marking down an org in recommendations. Stay positive. If you think another organization is better, say so. Don't overly criticize anyone on the our side of the fight.
Stronly concur. There is little profit to be gained from in-fighting.
 
It doesn't matter just as long as you are 100% clear that the American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) is NOT, repeat NOT a "RKBA organization". Giving them money is just giving money to Brady and VPC at one remove.

AHSA is what you'd get if the KKK started a "civil rights" organization.
 
We have two problems as gun owners that national RKBA organizations work to address, cultural and legislative. Some organizations work on promoting the shooting sports while others concentrate on legislation that impacts gun owners.

The NRA does both with a variety of support for shooting programs and it's legislative work.

What are the pros and cons of the NRA?

As the oldest and most experienced of the shooter's organizations they have a lot of influence the others might not have. They have extensive state organizations that influence politics and politicians at the state level which also translates to influence in Washington. The other organizations just don't have roots that spread that wide or go that deep.

The perceived cons are probably dependent upon what annoys an individual. No one likes getting begging letters or calls asking for money, but I'd rather have an organization funded by a broad base of members than a small group of contributors who can act as an oligarchy within the organization. The antis are funded by a few who want to engineer the many into their image of society. The NRA is at least funded by the members.

What other national RKBA organizations are there?

Most people forget about the NRA-ILA, but it is a separate lobbying/legislative arm of the NRA. Contributing to it contributes to directly to the court and legislative effort to protect gun owners' rights.

Gun Owners of America (GOA), is a smaller feistier group that takes a very aggressive position on straight RKBA politics. They don't get as involved in shooter education or hunters' rights as the NRA instead addressing 2A issues only.

Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) is another 2A only organization that works legislative RKBA issues.

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO) is another "in your face" 2A organization approaching things from their particular perspective. They do a very good job at making the point that the 2A isn't an out of date concept.

Someone is going to bring up the AHSA (American Hunter's and Shooter's Association) so we might as well toss it on the table. It is an organization claiming to be a viable alternative specifically to the NRA, but somehow supports banning certain types of firearms. The folks that started it come from the anti organizations and their membership is tiny (really tiny) while their visibility is disproportionate to their numbers. They've been discussed repeatedly here and those discussions are easy enough to find.


How do the others compare to the NRA?

Every other organization is smaller than the NRA. That's important in politics because the more members you have and the more money you can dedicate to the cause the more effective you can be nationally. I'd join the NRA and another national organization and work on the local level to protect your rights as a gun owner. Remember that every politician in the state capitol AND Congress is elected by the people of their state.
 
hso lays out a very succinct argument for why disparaging the NRA is counter productive. I'm a Life Member and I send an automatic donation to IRA-ILA each month.

No organization is going to be perfect, but the NRA is a loud voice for gun rights and it is influential. Imagine if every person who owned a firearm spent a few dollars each year for a membership. What puzzles me is why our NRA membership is not ten times as large as it is. If it was, the gun grabbers would be no issue at all.

We are our own worst enemy by not supporting the NRA. Think about it.
 
The NRA is the most powerful of all the gun groups and is my first choice. My second choice is your state organization that works in concert with the NRA. Some of the other "pro gun" groups such as GOA are actually anti NRA groups. It seems to me the GOA spends most of their time and money bashing the NRA instead of doing something constructive for the pro gun world.
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If you can only support one then the NRA would be it. You should support as many as possible but the NRA and one state grass roots organization would be good. Do your research before you support a local organization . Some of those local organizations are scams, they say they are grass roots but they don't do anything or they are working for the other side.
 
NRA. After the election I upgraded my membership to to Life Member and even sent a little moolah to the NRA-ILA. First time in my life I ever handed some hard earned dough to a lobbyist.
 
NRA.

I'm a Life Member and just upgraded my wife to Life Member this past weekend.
 
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