NcSTAR Scopes

I do not but all everything I have read compares them to Tasco. Which is a low end brand. How good will it be? Probably depends on how you will use them. If you are looking for good glass that performs well in low light I would say this is probably not the best brand.

I bought one just for kicks to put on a Saiga 223. It wouldn't keep zeroed,took it back and got another,did the same thing. After a couple shots it would loose zero. I would not buy another one.

Bought one, bad out of the box, returned. Next one bad out of the box. Gave it to the neighbor kid for his BB gun, he took it off after a week or so. Not all cheap scope are total junk, buy NcStar sure seems to have their share.

I would look elsewhere. If you can't or don't want to pay at least $200 for a higher end mid level scope then look at the Bushnell Elite 3200's or Nikon Pro Staff or Buckmaster. You will get pretty far with those on a budget. If you want to spend a little more step up to the Sightron SII, Bushnell Elite 4200, Nikon Monarch, Zeiss Conquest etc...

i had one, they get blurry when you increase zoom

Maybe I'm the only one.....
I've had pretty good luck with NCStar scopes. Got 2 still on rifles. Both are pistol scopes in scout scope use. One is on a 308 Spanish Mauser and the other on an M44 Mosin Nagant. Both have kept their zero and are still in use for hunting purposes. The third was a 3X9 compact scope for my AR. The scope was fine but the 1 piece handle mount was real junk. I sold the cope to a work buddy and discarded the mount. I shoot my AR better with the iron sights anyway.

Scott

In my experiance all Chinese made scopes fall into the same complete crap category, I've long speculated that they're all made in the same factory anyhow.

I've owned many and in all cases the optical errors were so terrible as to make shooting precision groups all but impossible. It's quite annoying to watch a 1" target dot blur and dance around on the piece of paper

Been shooting one hole 5 shot groups with a Remington 700, .223, with a 8/32 x 44 BSA Contender for 5 years now. Have no idea how many rounds are thru it but many boxes of 100 round Sierra Match King and on the 2nd 500 round box.

A 1 inch target dot bluring and dancing around sounds more like mirage to me.

The BSA contender is made in china (don't like it but that was what I can afford).
Pretty hard to get away from chinese stuff/crap/junk/merchandise these days. Look on the back of your computer or inside your shoes.

I'm generally pretty easy to satisfy with the low end optics, if the optic gets me tighter groups than I can do with irons and holds zero, I call it good enough.

I've been happy with BSA, Tasco, CDNN "Target Sports", and Simmons, but have found NcStar and BEC to be 100% junk.

Be careful some of the CDNN "Target Sports" stuff is now NcStar

--wally.

There are NO good inexpensive scopes.

Anybody who tries to tell you otherwise is mistaken.

NcStar = Ain't See S***

W.E.G. Do you apply this logic to all of your purchases?

At times a person gets more valvue than they expect or more than they pay for.

W.E.G. said:

There are NO good inexpensive scopes.

Anybody who tries to tell you otherwise is mistaken.

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I diasgree

The Bushnell banners come to mind. They may be heavy and overbuilt unrefined tanks of a scope. But they do preform well optically and are indeed quite rugged. I've owned scopes ranging in price from $25 to $700 and I still continue to be impressed with the banner for the price. Their Korean factory must be a marvel of automation to see in order to have the ability to produce such good optics for such a low price point

Another pair are the Sightron SI and Nikon pro staff 3x9x40 these can be had for $100 to $200 and in my opinion to beat em optically with a Leupold it takes a VXII or higher

I just bought a banner 2-7x36 for my ranch rifle today, got it for 60 bucks. I havent mounted it yet but I DID take it out of the box to check it out, Zoom is nice and smooth and doesnt get blurry, focus works well. I took it outside to se how bright it is, and wow, Im sure it doesnt transfer 100% light, but my eys cant tell. I cant wait to mount this sucker! I was looking at NCstar and centerpoint for awhile but the horror stories turned me away, I was going to get alittle tasco 3-9x40 or 4x32 when i found this one on sale, thankfully or local "mountain" isnt doing so hot and has ALOT of markdowns.

anyone have experience with Millett, BSA, Truglo, or Barska?

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anyone have experience with Millett, BSA, Truglo, or Barska?

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exact same scopes that likely roll off the exact same assembly line with NcStar

anyone have experience with Millett, BSA, Truglo, or Barska?

exact same scopes that likely roll off the exact same assembly line with NcStar

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China is a big country with a lot of contract manufacturers. Don't have any Millet, but my experience with Barska, BSA and Truglo is way better than anything I've got from NcStar or BEC.

This Barska Red Dot is perhaps my favorite inexpensive optic: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=339227

I've got them on .308, 7.62x39 and .223 rifles and so issues yet.


Now if the design looks exactly like something from NcStar I've tried to avoid buying so far.

That said, I mentioned in my earlier post that some of the recent CDNN "Target Sports" stuff is NcStar when you get it. To be fair I've got their quick detach 4x "mil dot" AR15 scope that I was disappointed to open and see it was NcStar, but so far its been fine, although I've only got in on a very low recoiling 5.45x39 AR upper.

As I said if money is no object just buy the big names and be done with it, but to me, a rifle scope is only an aiming aid, if it lets me shoot tighter groups than I can with the irons and see things at the target I can't see my naked eyes its an improvement and "worth it" as long as it holds zero. For example, while the afore mentioned 4X AR scope is no Leopold, I can see the 5.45mm holes in the target with it at 50 yards, no way can I see them unaided, but the cheap 10x50 binoculars CDNN gave me as a free gift work even better at scoring the target from 50 yards away.

Now with my Leupold 3x9x40 (pretty much bottom of their line) I can score .223 targets at 100 yards in any decent light. But since I prefer shooting reactive targets I don't see the need for expensive optics on most of my guns since I can easily score the hits and misses unaided, so all I really need from a scope is to improve the hit probability over irons. With 50+ year old eyeballs, this doesn't demand state of the art optics

--wally.

The key word in that quote was "likely" denotes supposition not fact.

And the earlier quote stating "there are NO good inexpensive scopes" is a blanket statement and as such never holds water.

from what i've been reading around millett is in the same tier as bushnell and the prices seem to correspond with that notion. the cheapest millett i've seen is $80 and that's for only a 1" one.

mine work fine. with a good cheek weld i can shoot 3 shot dimes with a wal mart savage at 50 yds. Thats a 3-9x40 probably parallax free at 100.

had some for my mosins, LER type, they worked fine too.
didn't spend much money on them, and I don't act like it.

Shot my .22 with the scope on some nights with a good moon.

I wouldn't plop them on anything I was going to need to depend on.
I also wouldn't depend on any optics in that way.
Irons will always be better I suppose.

I wouldn't even rate NCStar as good for a PAINTBALL gun. That's how bad they are. I had a holo sight from them. Couldn't see it in sunlight with a new battery.

That being said, they make some nice spotting scopes. I'd never put one of their products on a rifle, though.

anyone have experience with Millett, BSA, Truglo, or Barska?

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I've got a couple of Barska's... So far, they're both holding up well... One is on a .22 semi and the other on the Marlin 336C 30-30 Win.

I have a Center Point Scope on another .22, and it seems to be doing well also...

Cheers...

The joke is that BSA stands for Beter Stay Away. They have a habit for breaking. BSA tube red dots are ADCO clones. They look good on the outside, but tend to drift off zero with even mild recoil. Same goes for their scopes.