Idaho Reaffirms 2nd Amendment --tells DC to shove it

This is good to hear. What would be even better is if some of the people on here who claim to be lawyers would draft such things as this for their states reps to consider.

I very well may end up in Idaho. And yes Bob, I got the link.

Absolutely beautiful. One of my most memorable drives ever was through Idaho on Highway 12, starting at the Lolo Pass.

I would love to move there if they didn't have that winter problem.

That is why I love living in Idaho! Its one of the last bastions of freedom for gun owners.

Actually Marcus84, the winters really aren't that bad here depending on where you live. I live in the Treasure Valley (Boise area) and I have actually ridden my motorcycle up until January. Cold? Hell yes! But not impossible. Now up north is a different story. Winter up there can get down right nasty (Stanley, Idaho record low of -48 in 1985)

"On any single day, the mountain town of Stanley, Idaho, is most often the coldest place in the 48 continental states." - Currentresults.com

So if I can ride my motorcycle for that long (in the Boise area) and bear it, guess how much shooting I must do! And I will put up with a little cold weather if it means I can keep my guns.

It doesn't apear to me that Idaho has forgotten it. Perhaps you missed this "whereas":


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WHEREAS, the primary purpose of the right to keep and bear arms is to protect one’s
self, family and possessions from either the private lawlessness of other persons or the tyranny
of government...

i did miss it. hurray for idaho!....also the location for filming of napoleon dynamite. what a terrific state.

Nicely done Idaho.

This almost makes me want to move back to Idaho.

...the magic number is 34....

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Why 34? What happens when 34 states claim state sovereignty?

Why 34? What happens when 34 states claim state sovereignty?

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That's a 2/3 supermajority of the 50 states.

"That's a 2/3 supermajority of the 50 states."

So what are you trying to say? What is going to magically change? Of the states listed, most are only contesting the 10th amendment, and the rest are a hodgepodge of other complaints. Is 2/3 supposed to miraculously eliminate the federal gov? or mean automatic secession?

"That's a 2/3 supermajority of the 50 states."

So what are you trying to say? What is going to magically change? Of the states listed, most are only contesting the 10th amendment, and the rest are a hodgepodge of other complaints. Is 2/3 supposed to miraculously eliminate the federal gov? or mean automatic secession?

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I don't know, I was just answering the previous guy's question about what 34 meant. Someone else who has a better understanding of the political system can explain what actually happens.

Hi Throttle Jockey.

most are only contesting the 10th amendment

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The 10th states that any power not granted to the fed goes to the states or the people. Since controlling arms is not an authority granted to the Fed by the Constitution and specifically forbidden in the 2nd amendment, constesting the 10 would include the 2nd.

I love Idaho and Montana!

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ME TOO! IDAHO - the land of my birth, life and someday (probably soon) death! GIVE ME IDAHO, OR GIVE ME DEATH!

Act Now !!

It won't happen unless YOU write your state representative. I sent mine tonight....

Dear Rep. Unterman -

Thank you for supporting our 2nd amendment rights here in Georgia. In view of the US House Bill 45, I ask that you research House Joint Memorial No 3 put forth in the 2009 session of the Idaho State Legislature, and draft similar legislation for Georgia.

You can find the full text here...
http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/legislation/2009/HJM003.htm

Thank you for your service to our State and community.

Regards,

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What are you waiting on ?

I also sent a copy of the Idaho Bill to my Oregon representatives and State Legislature urging them to get Oregon on board. They need to receive these from every gun owner in the country. Please, THR members, let them know!

Secession may be a few "militia men's" wet dream but it isn't happening

There is no capability under the Constitution for any individual state to unilaterally secede from the Union, settled law under Texas V White 1868
http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0074_0700_ZO.html

Cuts both ways, there is no way for a state to be excluded from the Union.

In THEORY a mutual agreement could be agreed between both the individual state and the rest but to even do that at the very least a constitutional amendment would have to raised and passed then it would have to stand scrutiny in the SC etc etc.

So, State X says they don't want to play and want to keep their ball

State X Constitution would have to be amended
State X would have to petition Congress
State X has to convince two-thirds of both houses of Congress to vote to propose an amendment, or
State X has to get two-thirds of the state legislatures ask Congress to call a national convention to propose amendments. (This method has never been used.)

Assuming the petition works then they have to ratify the amendment

Three-fourths of the state legislatures approve it, or
Ratifying conventions in three-fourths of the states approve it. This method has been used only once -- to ratify the 21st Amendment -- repealing Prohibition.

Sorry to pop some peoples bubbles with reality

I also made a copy of Idaho's resolution and am sending it to a state representative I know personally, as well as to my local representative, with the humble suggestion that they get on the stick and introduce a similar bill in the Oregon House.

Defense Minister is right: We need to be heard on the issue in all 50 states.

If I could figure out a way to do it without being unemployed or irresponsible to my family, I'd be in Coeur d'Alene within the week, for keeps.

Although, as Bob pointed out, there are a lot of good places in the Panhandle.

- NF

My, how I miss north Idaho. Good folks, good food, great hunting, decent snowboarding, no urban noise, beautiful sunsets and starry nights, open carry, virtually no crime, and a legislature with stones ... In short, Idaho is everything Florida is not.

If I could figure out a way to do it without being unemployed or irresponsible to my family, I'd be in Coeur d'Alene within the week, for keeps.

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Amen, Nathaniel. Don't forget about Sandpoint, either.

rfwobbly- Georgia was one of the first to do the paperwork to claim state sovernty. I think it was 1994, but I could be wrong. It was several days ago when I looked at the list (when thread was brand new).

I, too, live in GA. So I made sure our great state was on there. We need to work on the other 18.

Wyman

ETA-Upon further review, GA was on the list twice (as was OK). For GA once in 1995/6, then again in 2009. So our Reps told the fed where to stick it twice. Sounds good to me. Some trhings need repeating .

Just for the record, my insomnia is kicking into overdrive. Here's a list of states that arn't on the list-

Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Conneticut, Massachusetts, Wisconsin, Oregon, North Dakota, South Dakota, New Mexico, Wyoming, Nebraska, Vermont, Rhode Island, Delaware

Those are the states that needto be worked on.

Wyman

Why 34? What happens when 34 states claim state sovereignty?

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Thirty-four is the nuber of states it would take to convene a Constitutional Convention. In this case, the purpose of such would not be to add additional ammendments to the existing body of the Constitution, but to enforce Federal Government compliance with the document as it stands.

Not saying that's where this is headed, but that's the basis of the "magic number."