Vietnam era "Special" weapons

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The genesis of the M3 w/ night vision was in Korea, but I think they saw some use in Vietnam, as little as it may have been. Feel free to fill in the details if you have them.

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It always looked a touch top-heavy to me... :uhoh:
 
I had a Vietnam vet as a rifle coach not to long ago and he had very similar sandals as the guy pictured above. He said he bought them from some kid in vietnam, who apparently made them from dumped Army truck tires
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You can buy them new off the internet from shops in Vietnam and Cambodia. They are called "Old Ho's" or "Ho Chi Minh" sandals. They're very popular with hippies, stoners, and "mother earth" types.
 
Sweet...CHINA LAKE PUMP. I need on of those to protect the hood!

Today's China Lake NATIC 40mm looks like this

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I knew a guy who was in the Navy, on river patrol boats. His personal weapon was an M2 carbine with the stock cut off and the barrel cut down to about 12". Didn't bother to put a front sight back on it, as he loaded 50% tracers. Spray and pray, all the way.
 
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Looks like the guys from the 25th Infantry are using XM-21 sniper rifles.
The XM-21 did not have an attachment on it for a bayonet while the M-14 did.
I know, I used an XM-21 myself for about 7 months while sniping over there.
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The modern version is called the Crazy Horse M21A5 and it was recently dubbed the Ultimate semi-auto sniper system!

No bayonet lug needed.

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Pray tell...

The modern version is called the Crazy Horse M21A5 and it was recently dubbed the Ultimate semi-auto sniper system!
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Who, exactly, dubbed it that? :scrutiny:
 
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The modern version is called the Crazy Horse M21A5 and it was recently dubbed the Ultimate semi-auto sniper system!

Who, exactly, dubbed it that?
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Not the US military. The M21 was a failure as a sniper weapon because it required too much armorer support to maintain the accuracy that was required for the mission. The receiver was glass bedded into the stock and it required a trip to support for cleaning. The program was ended way before enough NM M14s were converted to M21s to meet the requirements for sniper rifles and the M1D soldiered on in most units until the adoption of the M24 in 1989.
 
You can buy them new off the internet from shops in Vietnam and Cambodia. They are called "Old Ho's" or "Ho Chi Minh" sandals. They're very popular with hippies, stoners, and "mother earth" types.
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He was none of the above! I'd say he was a good shot, a loud mouth, and tough old man. I liked him. Had some other interesting items including a picture of him holding a revolver to a skull :)what:), a little crossbow, and some frag from his leg...

Back to the gun topic, does anybody know what types of revolvers were used in Vietnam? Where they issued or personal weapons?

HB
 
Jeff White

The M21 was a failure as a sniper weapon because it required too much armorer support to maintain the accuracy that
was required for the mission. The receiver was glass bedded into the stock and it required a trip to support for cleaning.
The program was ended way before enough NM M14s were converted to M21s to meet the requirements for sniper rifles
and the M1D soldiered on in most units until the adoption of the M24 in 1989.
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Much has changed since the 1980's. The Modern M21A5 Crazy Horse requires no glass bedding.
This ain't the M14 of the past, the Modern M21A5 Crazy Horse is both reliable and accurate.
It gets even better when you put the action into a SAGE EBR chassis stock :)
 
Much has changed since the 1980's. The Modern M21A5 Crazy Horse requires no glass bedding.
This ain't the M14 of the past, the Modern M21A5 Crazy Horse is both reliable and accurate.
It gets even better when you put the action into a SAGE EBR chassis stock
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What military has adopted it?
 
The US ARMY has been using Crazy Horse M14s in small, but growing numbers since about 2004.
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Just because they bought a few doesn't mean it was adopted. There is a big difference between being procured in limited quantity and being adopted. My respect for Smith Enterprises just went way down seeing that they have stooped to claiming their weapon has been type classified and adopted. Looks like units have spent their own money on them. Something that has gone on quite a bit since the GWOT started.

It was not selected as the semi-automatic sniper system. That contract went to Knights Armament for an SR25 variant IIRC.

I can show you examples where individual units have bought M16 type weapons from various manufacturers, but that doesn't mean they were ever adopted.
 
I didn't say it was adopted. Nobody except yourself mentioned that it had or had not been adopted.

Your claim that anyone other than yourself has stated the rifle has been adopted is false.
 
I didn't say it was adopted. Nobody except yourself mentioned that had or had not been adopted.
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I specifically asked what military had adopted it and you replied the US Army.

Your claim that anyone has stated the rifle has been adopted is false.
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You stated it was adopted in the very next post. If you didn't mean to state it was adopted, why did you imply that it was by answering my question with the reply that the US Army had?
 
H20 never said adopted, but you did allude to it, here.

small, but growing numbers since about 2004.
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Jeff's got the right idea though. The rifle has not been adopted. I think that was a smart move. Sticking with the AR-type will streamline logistics.

Don't assume he's stooping to word games. He made an inference of your allusion.
 
I alluded to nothing, I just stated the facts.

Jeff is stooping to cheap word games and he is dead wrong.
He knows it, you know it... everyone knows it.
Your siding with him only makes you complaisant.


Go ahead and twist my words for your own petty enjoyment - I stand by the facts that I have clearly stated.
 
Calling people things isn't going to solve an internet scuffle.

I can see where Jeff took your statement. Not saying he's right, but I do see where he's taken it.

He's not right in his assumption about your statement, he is right about his view on the M14 in combat as the US Army's sniper platform.

Or at least you wont be able to sway him one way or the other.

I agree with him on that point at least.

You're not
 
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Back on topic :neener:

This has to be one of, if not THE strangest "Special" weapon of the Vietnam era.

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BTW, I was once a flight instructor for a hovercraft manufacturer... what a great job!



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helz_mcfugly are ya talking about Madana and Angalina, or Vietnam era weapons? I hope i spelled those names right so i dont get critiqued.
heres a Vetnam shotgun. it'll blow your mind man :what:
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helz_mcfugly, excellent postage and your speeling is just phine :evil:
 
So, once again I ask...

Who, exactly, dubbed it "The Ultimate Semi-Auto Sniper System"?

We all know you're the poster child here at THR for the M14/M1A family w/bolted on hardware.

That's no big deal, I've owned several in my time, competed at Camp Perry with others using the platform, and still have one in the collection.

But c'mon, stop blowing smoke up our posteriors and attribute the statement, will 'ya?

Even I know my beloved M14 platform isn't the be-all, end-all of semiauto sniper platforms come 2009.

"Ultimate"?

Sheesh...
 
Just curious...
How did that mag-fed 870 really work?

The mag sits well forward of the bolt, shell lifter, and ejection port.

For a shell to be stripped from that forward-mounted mag and fed into the chamber, both the bolt and chamber would have to also sit in a forward position, locking up in battery somewhere ahead of the forward edge of the magazine.

Unless that mag just dumped its rounds into the standard 870 tubular magazine just forward of the receiver, I can't see how it would work.

What am I missing here?
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get out of the box! haha.
the pump is hooked up to an op rod which shoves the shell out of the mag into the feed ramp the same way a tube spring would.
 
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