G30 Issues

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brisendines

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Hey guys-
Picked up a Glock 30 a while back, and it seems to shoot premium ammo pretty well, but I've been having trouble with its accuracy and FTFs ever since I bought it. I had problems with Winchester White Box and jacketed reloads of my own making. The last batch of reloads I did, I believe the OAL may be slightly off, but my 1911 eats them with no problem, whereas the glock jams 3-4+ times per magazine. I'm really struggling with this, because I have always heard how glocks eat anything, how reliable they are, etc etc. But my "picky" 1911 people bash (esp. cops and the like) is much more trusted by me.
I looked at the feed ramp, and I can't see anything really wrong with it... I had a gunsmith take a quick look at it, and he said he didn't see anything wrong. I have somewhere around 750 rounds through it, with 4 different magazines. Anyone have any tips?
 
3-4 times per magazine means something specific is wrong. Glocks should shoot anything (except reloads) near flawlessly. Did you buy this gun new or used? If new and you only have 750 rounds through it, I find it hard to believe there is a problem with the weapon. Are you using higher power premium ammo (+p)? If so you could be limp-wristing and the higher power ammo is masking the problem, which shows up when you use range ammo. Glocks are very touchy with limp wrists.
However, if you suspect a mechanical problem, here's what I would check, in order of probability of causing the issue. However, I find all of this unlikely with only 750 rounds through the gun.
My first thought would be worn magazine springs. That will cause 80% of all FTFs in a Glock. While I find it statistically improbable that the same problem would occur with all your magazines (it's usually one problem mag), it's possible if they were rotated consistently. But this would only be after 1000s of rounds, not 750.
Next thought: how often have you cleaned your magazines? Dirty mags will cause the other 20% of FTFs. Break them down and give them a good scrubbing - especially the followers. Again, 750 rounds, even through one mag is not what I would consider “dirty”, unless you were using Aguila… :)
Next, inspect your extractor. It might be chipped or worn. If your gunsmith wasn't a Glock armorer, he might not have know what to look for. If such a small amount of rounds it’s more likely it got chipped. Ever shoot steel casings?
Next, take a close look at your recoil spring assembly. Make sure the rod is intact and the springs look good.
Next, try pushing back and forth on the extractor. If it feels solid and gives good tension, skip this step. Otherwise, if you know how to do it, break down your slide and inspect the depressor plunger spring - it could be worn or broken causing your extractor to malfunction.
Lastly, and least likely, lock you slide back and look at the ejector. Make sure it's not bent, or broken.
That's all I can think of for mechanical issues.
As far as accuracy: define "trouble with its accuracy".
 
My first thought would be worn magazine springs.
Mine, too, if the rounds are nose-diving into the feed ramp. Cramming ten large-diameter, heavy cartridges into that small space and then pushing them up fast enough to be stripped off during firing is a pretty tall order for that spring.
 
Well, I have 2 carry magazines that I run HSTs through, and they feed them well. The other "Practice" magazines were the ones having trouble. They are "nose diving" into the feed ramp, although sometimes I get an FTE that jams vertically in the gun. I do think limp wristing has an effect, because I let my wife shoot it and it got a lot worse.
After I realized this, I got a more firm grip on it, and its still happening.
As for the accuracy thing, it seems to be dead on, but then it'll throw one. I don't know if the ammo discrepancies are just more obvious in it than the 1911 or what. We are talking about 20 yard+ shooting, but its no problem for the 1911.
 
What's your shooting history? I'm just wondering if you are a little new to shooting and need to have someone show you a better grip? Definitely sounds like limp wristing. You probably have a better grip on the 1911 than you do on your glock. Are you using the longer mags or the flush base mags? A .45 ACP in a short grip might just be too much to hold onto for your grip. Go to www.springerprecision.com and click on "shooting tips" at the top there is a good article and some videos about proper shooting grip that really helped me when I was learning. If you're not new to shooting then I would send the gun to glock and let them look at it.
 
Well, I haven't shot a whole lot, but about 2 years of pistol shooting. I've shot rifles my whole life, but thats a different animal as far as grip. Next time I go out I'll try to focus on the grip even more, but I'm a little skeptical that it will totally fix it.
 
Continuous FTE problems with a Glock? I am not convinced of this. Why is it that the only time I get info on Glocks failing is from the internet. I've never seen one fail in real time. Never.
 
I'll get you a video if you don't believe it, but you would be ignorant to think that a mechanical device can never fail.
 
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