Mainsail
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I was looking at the .44s and notice that you make pretty much the same as everyone else. Will you ever tool up for heavier bullets, 300+ grain?
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MissouriBullet
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300-grain .44?
Mainsail:
"I was looking at the .44s and notice that you make pretty much the same as everyone else. Will you ever tool up for heavier bullets, 300+ grain?"
Hmmm. I didn't know that everybody else has .44's in weights of 165, 180, 200, and three different 240's.
This is actually the first request we've had for a 300+ grain .44 bullet. Adding a new bullet to the line costs around $750.00, so it doesn't look very likely that we'll be doing that, based upon this first request, unless of course you want to order 30,000 of them. Then we'll get right on it!
Our next new bullets are going to be .380's and Makarov lightweights, right at the opposite end of the 300 grain .44 spectrum.
Thank you for asking.
Brad
Mainsail:
"I was looking at the .44s and notice that you make pretty much the same as everyone else. Will you ever tool up for heavier bullets, 300+ grain?"
Hmmm. I didn't know that everybody else has .44's in weights of 165, 180, 200, and three different 240's.
This is actually the first request we've had for a 300+ grain .44 bullet. Adding a new bullet to the line costs around $750.00, so it doesn't look very likely that we'll be doing that, based upon this first request, unless of course you want to order 30,000 of them. Then we'll get right on it!
Our next new bullets are going to be .380's and Makarov lightweights, right at the opposite end of the 300 grain .44 spectrum.
Thank you for asking.
Brad
How long is this good for?
Reason I ask - doing taxes and expect a bit of a refund, so in a couple weeks I could do it. Our CC just sent notice they're raising the interest rate to 16%. Our reward for not carrying a balance I suppose, so I'm not going to start now.
Reason I ask - doing taxes and expect a bit of a refund, so in a couple weeks I could do it. Our CC just sent notice they're raising the interest rate to 16%. Our reward for not carrying a balance I suppose, so I'm not going to start now.
71Commander
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I just ordered another K. 45. 200 gr FP.
MetalMan52
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Brad,
Thanks for the offer, just placed another order. I am also interested in how long the offer is good for.
My letter carrier is a little overweight and I'd like to help him out with a good workout. He just loves it when I order bullets. LOL.
Pat
Brad,
Thanks for the offer, just placed another order. I am also interested in how long the offer is good for.
My letter carrier is a little overweight and I'd like to help him out with a good workout. He just loves it when I order bullets. LOL.
Pat
MissouriBullet
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What the heck? Until further notice, I guess. This is the best gun forum I've ever been a part of and we have plenty of alloy, so let's keep on!
Brad
What the heck? Until further notice, I guess. This is the best gun forum I've ever been a part of and we have plenty of alloy, so let's keep on!
Brad
edSky
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Thanks, Brad! I've run out of my 9mm 147gr FN and will be ordering more. Since using these (and the lighter weight round nose) I've discovered that my 9mm Springfield Loaded just loves these boolits.
Landric
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He does do a 100 bullet sample pack, but I suppose 100 is too many if your pistol won't feed them.
I have two friends that shoot exclusively SWCs in their 1911s without problems, so your .45 (whatever it may be) would probably feed them with the right tuning of the load (OAL, etc.).
Personally, I like the RNFPs in .45ACP and have a large batch of Missouri's 200 grainers. I got a sample pack of the .45 Colt 250 grain RNFP and loaded some in ACP which I also enjoyed a lot. I might well switch to the 250 grain bullet once I use up my 200 grainers.
I have two friends that shoot exclusively SWCs in their 1911s without problems, so your .45 (whatever it may be) would probably feed them with the right tuning of the load (OAL, etc.).
Personally, I like the RNFPs in .45ACP and have a large batch of Missouri's 200 grainers. I got a sample pack of the .45 Colt 250 grain RNFP and loaded some in ACP which I also enjoyed a lot. I might well switch to the 250 grain bullet once I use up my 200 grainers.
Primersinmyshoe
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I like the new way the bullets are packaged:
Here are some 200g SWCs:
Here are some 200g SWCs:
Bruce H.
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I just received my first order from Missouri Bullet Co. yesterday. The box was completely intact with no damage. I just wanted to post this because I have read on other posts that people have received shipments from MBC and their box was ripped open. Some even lost bullets during shipment.
Primersinmyshoe
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Now if they could do something about the boxes. I still haven't figured out how to open them.
Husker_Fan
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Likely a stupid question, but...
What do they mean exactly by ppc and target velocities for .38 spcl.?
I'm ordering 500ea of the 148 DEWC and 158 SWC, and I want to load them correctly to minimize leading. If they're going to the effort to tune their alloy, I may as well take advantage of it.
What do they mean exactly by ppc and target velocities for .38 spcl.?
I'm ordering 500ea of the 148 DEWC and 158 SWC, and I want to load them correctly to minimize leading. If they're going to the effort to tune their alloy, I may as well take advantage of it.
MetalMan52
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If you look at the Brinell harnesss number for each type of bullet, it will give you an idea of it's relative hardness. The higher the number, the harder the bullet. A bullet with a Brinell number of 18 is harder than one of 12.
I hope that helps.
Pat
If you look at the Brinell harnesss number for each type of bullet, it will give you an idea of it's relative hardness. The higher the number, the harder the bullet. A bullet with a Brinell number of 18 is harder than one of 12.
I hope that helps.
Pat
Gryffydd
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I was interested in putting in an order but I didn't see anything for .45 Colt/.454 Casull other than soft cowboy loads. Am I just missing them?
Husker_Fan
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MetalMan,
I understand the varying hardnesses, and that is what prompted the question. I understand that softer lead is better at lower velocities, but I was hoping for absolute numbers. I want to load the bullets in a velocity range to minimize leading.
I understand the varying hardnesses, and that is what prompted the question. I understand that softer lead is better at lower velocities, but I was hoping for absolute numbers. I want to load the bullets in a velocity range to minimize leading.
Gryffydd
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There are a ton of factors--the precise measurement of your bore and your cylinder throats (if you're using a revolver of course), among other things. A very general way to put it (which has many exceptions) would be:
12 Hardness: <1,000fps
18 Hardness: <1,500fps
18+ with Gas Check: 1,500fps+
There are many factors that can change those numbers +/- several hundred feet per second, but it's an easy rule of thumb. I'm sure there will be some popping up telling how they shoot lead at 1,900 fps with no gas check in their Casull or something, and there's no doubt it can be done, given all other circumstances aligning perfectly.
12 Hardness: <1,000fps
18 Hardness: <1,500fps
18+ with Gas Check: 1,500fps+
There are many factors that can change those numbers +/- several hundred feet per second, but it's an easy rule of thumb. I'm sure there will be some popping up telling how they shoot lead at 1,900 fps with no gas check in their Casull or something, and there's no doubt it can be done, given all other circumstances aligning perfectly.
edSky
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I thought the boxes were really easy to open. Now, watch me go and mess up my next batch! :banghead:
Wilburt
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I'm new at this..... On there website for 45 ACP Brinell 18 is for Major Power factor and Brinell 12 is for Bullseye or Target velocities. Now to get major for Most ISPC, USPSA, and IDPA all there bullets (185, 200, 230) not need pushed past 1000 fps. So..... Is 18 really nessicary or?
Dark Skies
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MissouriBullet - do you ship to the UK? What would be the P&P on say, 500 .357 158 gr ?
Gryffydd
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Read this page on their site: http://www.missouribullet.com/technical.php
The example they choose is as follows:
Now, take a very similar load (from Hodgdon's site)
Which would give you 12.7 instead of 15.62 for a load that is ballistically similar.
Or to really illustrate the point, a similar (200gr @ ~900fps) load in .45 Colt would only generate about 9000CUP.
Gryffydd
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Conventional wisdom says not to shoot cast bullets out of guns with polygonal rifling. Anecdotal evidence says it can be OK given the right set of circumstances. I have seen many people on this forum say they shoot cast bullets from their Glocks with no ill effects. I don't own anything with polygonal rifling so I can't speak to that myself.
Do a search on the subject, it has been discussed here more times than I can count.
Do a search on the subject, it has been discussed here more times than I can count.
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