I Need a one "Tactical" feature Rifle

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I can't have more than that in my state. Should I just get an SU-16?

I already have an SKS on the way (my first gun) but I want something more "tactical" while I still have the chance.

I've posted similiar questions, about a Bushmaster possibly, but didn't get very many replies
 
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Not sure what state you are talking about but an interesting way to side step a lot of that is to consider something like the Remington 7615.

Being a pump action instead of semi it pretty much negates all the BS of "tactical features" in many states.

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But yeah, post what state you are dealing with, that will help. There are generally ways to deal with most of the restrictions out there.
 
New York. I wonder if this means I can't have Bushamaster; is it an AR-15 copy? This is so annoying.

22. "Assault weapon" means
(a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an
ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the
following characteristics:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
the weapon;
(iii) a bayonet mount;
(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
flash suppressor;
(v) a grenade launcher; or

(b) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such
weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known
as:
(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all
models);
(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
(iv) Colt AR-15;
(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
(vii) Steyr AUG;
(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
 
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New York. I wonder if this means I can't have Bushamaster since it's an AR-15 copy? This is so annoying.
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No it does not mean that, you cannot have a colt model named AR-15, you can buy a colt AR type rifle of a different model name though with the correct parts count. That is you can have an AR type rifle it just cannot have a flash suppressor or a threaded muzzle and it cannot say Colt AR-15 on it. There is a bushmaster AR type rifle at my FFL for sale as we speak and I live in Western NY.

So pretty much most every semi auto rifle with detachable magazine is legal in NY as long as they do not have the specific model names mentioned above and do not have more than 1 "evil" feature. Most manufacturers learned how to bend the rules during the national assault weapon ban.
 
Go for capacity if possible. While you may not be able to hang all sorts of doodads off it, use a collapsable stock or have a pistol grip, the essentials are the ability to change the sights, including adding red dots or scopes and capacity.
 
What's the name of the model of that Bushmaster?
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I'm not sure the exact model number but look on their website or call to find out which models are NY legal think it is called the "Bushmaster M4 Type "Post Ban" Carbine" . All manufacturers have ban state legal models. Forgot also you can't have the bayonet mount.
 
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Any Post-Ban AR15 would work. Fixed stock and pinned welded break. I have one and I live in a non-ban state. I just put a new stock on it. Can't take off the front sight though, since the brake is welded on.
 
I know the UK firearms laws are pretty restrictive but they kind of make sense if you can temporarily suspend belief regarding legally held pistols and semi-automatic large calibre rifles re armed crime.

But the American state to state laws really do throw me. What the hell does it matter what a firearm looks like or what its manufacturers name is pertaining to models?
 
1) M1A
2) Garand
3) SKS (you have this covered)
4) Remington 795 or Ruger 10/22 (these will help you learn to maximize the effectiveness of our rifles above)

The SU-16 will be a huge disappointment for you, as I suspect the Remington pump action. Neither of these rifles are designed to be shot more than once or twice in a row, in a range environment, and only when your only concern is making a big noise. You would be better off with a good bolt action, especially a military pattern, Springfield 1903, Mauser, Mosin-Nagant.

Good luck
 
as I suspect the Remington pump action. Neither of these rifles are designed to be shot more than once or twice in a row, in a range environment, and only when your only concern is making a big noise.
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What's your experience with the Remington 7615? Mine has been entirely different. I've found them to be extremely reliable and sturdy, capable of extended firing just like an AR.

Guess since they are not "cool" that negates actual performance. $600, uses AR mags, and immune from (so far) ban legislation.

I know the "cool" factor is nonexistent with the Remington pump but they are solid rifles. Look past the tacticool to practical.
 
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But the American state to state laws really do throw me. What the hell does it matter what a firearm looks like or what its manufacturers name is pertaining to models?
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You have hit the nail squarely upon the head for what was fundamentally wrong with the original, and now happily expired federal AWB.

It was nothing more than a "miniskirt" ban. There is a tale, potentially apocryphal, that a staffer was given a highlighter and a copy of Guns Digest and was told to highlight "anything that looks like a machine gun" and that was how the ban list was selected.

That a few of the individual States have taken up where the federal ended is lamentable. Doubly so for the highly confused residents therein.
 
California-legal M1A
That's where I would put my money. Assuming you can find one right now.
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The M1A is legal in NY state as is with the flash hider (sans bayo lug) you don't need to get the CA model, that is why it is called the CA model not the NY and CA model.
 
Here's something that just occured me. Could Colt have got around the AWB ban on their AR15 by simply renaming their company? Or creating a new company that made the banned models under another name?
 
They're taking Baby Steps

But the American state to state laws really do throw me. What the hell does it matter what a firearm looks like or what its manufacturers name is pertaining to models?
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They want to ban guns all together. They know they can't do that right now, so they're taking one step at a time.
 
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Here's something that just occured me. Could Colt have got around the AWB ban on their AR15 by simply renaming their company? Or creating a new company that made the banned models under another name?
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Yes that is what they did and are still doing. The ban state legal AR clones still need to be compliant whatever they are named.
 
If I lived in a state with that list and a 10 round mag limit, I would have for a tactical set a Remington 870, a 1911 45ACP and a Remington 700 in 308, all black.
 
Yep, any M14 type rifle in a standard stock and without a flash suppressor should do the trick.
Can you have 20 round mags? If not, new 10 round mags are available from CMI.
 
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