Should Texas Secede? Poll

What does this have to do with The High Road, and our intended purposes?

Geno
(Formerly Doc2005)

Yes, but it looks like the vast majority of Texans would prefer to stay attached to the fed.

Yes... The U.S. sure ain't what it used to b.

It looks like the vast majority wants to secede, not stay in the Union.

Actually looks like 70% want to bail on the Obamanation....

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0074_0700_ZO.html

Aside from the fact that this discussion does not belong here...

Why not osama-slice? Perhaps because you don't like the results?

Taking the state's rights interpretation of the Constitution in the present age seems a bit radical. It was perfectly logical for John C. Calhoun to do it in the 1820s, but we fought a war, and state sovereignty was soundly defeated.
Also if you read that case, it seems to say that secession cannot happen.

I don't think they should, though not being edumacated too much on this issue I have no idea if they can. They would be vulnerable to invasion by various nations, the U.S. included. (They would be a foreign nation if they secede)

JImbothefiveth, who hates a lot of the current U.S. laws and the obamination

I was referring to this article's survey of Texans.

In Texas, 31% Say State Has Right to Secede
From U.S., But 75% Opt To Stay

Also if you read that case, it seems to say that secession cannot happen.

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That's not correct.

It says that secession can only happen by
a) revolution or
b) if the other states decide to allow it

And yes, totally outside of guns and, in fact, misquotes the governor entirely.

Gov Perry did NOT suggest it was time to secede.

"America is a great country, and Texas wants to stay in that union and help our way out of this" economic downturn, Perry said. "I’m trying to make Washington pay attention to the 10th Amendment. We are Americans, proud Texans, and we will do everything we can to get America back on track."

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Who in their right mind would try to invade us? Mexico? Yeah right!! We would show any and all invaders what the 2nd is about!!

That's not correct.

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My focus would be on the absolute crushing death-blow that Salmon Chase gave to state's-righters; e.g. "The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact..."
The revolution bit puts the burden on the people, who surrendered their powers of governance directly to form the Constitution.
I honestly have no idea what "consent of the States" means, but since the Confederation was "illegitimate", I would assume that it would not do for the states to just band together as they did in 1861.

ETA:
http://facweb.furman.edu/~benson/docs/calhoun.htm
Calhoun's interpretation of the Constitution, which more or less became that of the South.
http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres31.html
Contrast that with Lincoln's, and you see we have big problems.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/htm...4_0700_ZO.html

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So what? The Supreme Court has been stepping all over itself to change stare decisis recently. It's just an old case. Next time it gets to the SCROTUS, the decision could easily be the opposite.

I think that Texas v. White would stand today. I think that the Constitutional Compact theory is very much out of the mainstream, and that if this issue came before the Supreme Court, it is my uninformed opinion that they would uphold the Texas v. White opinion.
You think differently. I'm down with that.

This is ridiculously off-topic.