ALERT!-primer info

SASS#23149 said:

can't buy what is not there.

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Yep. My problem too. This panic buying is a bit ridiculous at this point, and I'm tired of seeing people fan the flames on this one. Right now, on any given day there are no primers to be had in the Denver metro area. I've been searching for small pistol primers for months, and have only been able to purchase 100 primers so far... just one single pack.

evan price said:

/\ Naaah, seriously, did anybody believe that fecal impaction I just posted? Seriously?

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Coming from you, I knew you were bluffing. Sadly, some people truly believe this rumor, even to this day. Just this week I had someone whisper that "critical" information to me in a gun store, just before the guy scampered off as if he had revealed a secret that would have him tried for treason. Idiots are abundant. Too bad we can't trade a few of them in for primers!



As an afterthought: If I were an anti-gun advocate, I think I'd simply go to a single gun show and spread a nasty rumor about an upcoming ammo ban... The rumor would naturally spread like wildfire, and we'd soon find that every piece of ammo in the country would quickly be swept up and squirreled away in the basements of the paranoid hobbiest. No one would be shooting, and the anti-gun contingent could live in peace until it was time to start the next rumor.

People speculate on stocks, gold, etc. all the time. You hope to buy low and sell high. If you buy stock for $20 a share and can resell it for $50 a share in short period of time, you won't be accused of being greedy. That's how the stock market works. If I buy a bunch of primers and ammo why is it any different? They will only sell for what people are willing to pay for. We as individuals don't set prices. The collective does. The idea that I as an individual thinks I have the right to set prices is rediculous. All that amounts to is "I should only have to pay x amount and anyone who charges more is gouging me". Go ahead and price yourselves below the market and see how much that puts in your supply.

Fifty gal. of gas? That relates to a 1 year supply?
I've been known to use that much up in less than 2 days.

No where near what kind of time frame people are hoarding ammo in.

I got caught short of sp primers but have 1K of lp and lr primers set back for shortage if I need them (eventually will if the supply doesn't return which I think it will).
I found a brick (1K) of sp magnum for $22.40 so got them, there are no sp standard availble anywhere around here.
powder is at a premium and jacketed slugs also.
I think a lot of it is 'panic buying'. few places (Wally) have any pistol or common rifle ammo at all. Dick's has some at 2 box limit.
some .22LR is available and shotty 'game loads' but zero buck.
what madness!

I just bought 3,000 small pistol match primers for $30.00/1000 last Friday, so you can still get lucky and come across some. This place has about 6,000 large pistol magnum primers still available.

jcwit - "Fifty gal. of gas? That relates to a 1 year supply?"

It's leaded high octane fuel - pretty difficult to get here but some places still stock it for classic cars. An English gallon is slightly bigger than a US gallon.

I use it for my old Triumph Bonneville - it only gets a bit of summer use when I fancy a bit of old school riding. Bit of a change from my Speed Triple and ZRX1100.

I was playing with my dog yesterday and he barked three times in a row. I translated that to mean "Obama will ban all primers" so I hurried out and bought all that I could.

Please forward this to all your friends.


PS: If he barks four times it means "go shoot some teenagers necking in their cars" so I will keep you posted on that front.

hornadylnl said:

People speculate on stocks, gold, etc. all the time. You hope to buy low and sell high. If you buy stock for $20 a share and can resell it for $50 a share in short period of time, you won't be accused of being greedy. That's how the stock market works. If I buy a bunch of primers and ammo why is it any different?

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To be honest, I think the problem stems from the fact that we are comparing apples and oranges. Shooting is a hobby and lifestyle to most of us, not an investment that we expect a return on. But, admittedly, some people see these activities from the eyes of a business person.

Because this is a forum that is dedicated to guns/shooting, the majority of the membership consists of people who enjoy this hobby. Clearly this is not an investing website.

So, right or wrong, I think a lot of people are offended when they realize that they are being kept from their favorite pastime because someone else on the forum decided to buy 150,000 primers, in an attempt to turn a large profit off of their fellow shooters.

That's just my hunch. Like it or leave it.

"People speculate on stocks, gold, etc. all the time. You hope to buy low and sell high. If you buy stock for $20 a share and can resell it for $50 a share in short period of time, you won't be accused of being greedy. That's how the stock market works. If I buy a bunch of primers and ammo why is it any different? They will only sell for what people are willing to pay for. We as individuals don't set prices. The collective does. The idea that I as an individual thinks I have the right to set prices is rediculous. All that amounts to is "I should only have to pay x amount and anyone who charges more is gouging me". Go ahead and price yourselves below the market and see how much that puts in your supply."

It's supply and demand, pretty simple like it or not. When I hear suggestions of limiting what someone can buy (a legal commodity), no matter what the justification, that is scary.

I don't think this is an apples to oranges comparison. Is the boat dealer going to knock off 20% because it's only a hobby? Don't people buy baseball cards in hopes of making huge profits? Bottom line is people got caught with their pants down and want to blame others because they can't get any. They are available. You just have to pay for them. If you don't want to pay up then do without. To get on the interwebs and complain and demand that people lower their prices is something I expect out of socialists, not gun owners.

If you aren't working on buying a lifetime supply of ammo and components then it is your own dam fault. Even if you pay $50 a k for 20 k of primers today, what do you think they will cost 10 years from now if they are even legal? I don't like paying $20 per k but it is nobodys fault but my own that I didn't buy 100k when they were $14.

Agh, the good old days when primers were less than 1/2 penny each.

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LOL, I'm just now opening up a box of CCI SPP that are marked 1989 with a marker. (they still go bang BTW) The price tag is very old but I think it says $5.95. (my eyes aren't working as well as those primers)

hornadylnl said:

I don't think this is an apples to oranges comparison. Is the boat dealer going to knock off 20% because it's only a hobby? Don't people buy baseball cards in hopes of making huge profits? Bottom line is people got caught with their pants down and want to blame others because they can't get any. They are available. You just have to pay for them. If you don't want to pay up then do without. To get on the interwebs and complain and demand that people lower their prices is something I expect out of socialists, not gun owners.

If you aren't working on buying a lifetime supply of ammo and components then it is your own dam fault. Even if you pay $50 a k for 20 k of primers today, what do you think they will cost 10 years from now if they are even legal? I don't like paying $20 per k but it is nobodys fault but my own that I didn't buy 100k when they were $14.

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Well, I never asked anyone to lower their prices. I vote with my wallet, and I'd rather go without than pay panic prices.

Admittedly, I am out of some primers right now. I haven't been reloading as long as I've been shooting, and haven't quite built up my supply of components yet. In some areas I'm doing well, in others I'm not. I do have a decent supply of loaded factory ammo, but I'm still not on the same page as you when it comes to buying "a lifetime supply of ammo".

First, how much shooting do you really think you'd get to do if guns were completely outlawed? Second, while I think it is a good idea to have a decent supply, I'm not about to try to come up with the ridiculous amount of ammo I'd need to stockpile today to keep me shooting until I die. Similarly, I don't have a lifetime supply of gasoline at my house, despite the fact that gas prices routinely go up!

Wandered into my local gun shop today to pick up some powders and CCI minimags.

ME: "I don't suppose you have some small pistol primers too?

SHOPKEEP: "Sure, how many do you want?"

ME: "How many have you got?"

SHOPKEEP: "A full shelf"

ME: "1000 CCIs will do me."

SHOPKEEP: "£23.00 (about $34)

I guess the horror stories are untrue then.

Damn sick of these threads! I could swear that this guy is in some way connected to CCI or some other primer/ammo company trying to create even more mass choas in order to be able to claim shortage, then gouge the prices even further. Oboma was the best sales pitch any ammo/gun/powder/reloading company could have ever dreamt up in their careers. And then we end up with people in our own community trying to help spread the panic even more with stupid ass comments like this thread. Keep these lame ass threads to yourself and quit being part of the problem.

Agreed.

I keep telling myself "This to Shall Pass"

Wandered into my local gun shop today to pick up some powders and CCI minimags.

ME: "I don't suppose you have some small pistol primers too?

SHOPKEEP: "Sure, how many do you want?"

ME: "How many have you got?"

SHOPKEEP: "A full shelf"

ME: "1000 CCIs will do me."

SHOPKEEP: "£23.00 (about $34)

I guess the horror stories are untrue then.
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"And, despite being in its case, in poor repair and most importantly unloaded, I somehow worried that I'd shoot myself."
It's a shame that wasn't possible.

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You are in a country not effected by "The Great One" so you should not feel the pain we are feeling.....yet

It's tough to just sit back and watch all these people trying to create even more panic than there is now though. Too many people around the country read these threads and buy into what is said and become paranoid to the point of insanity. I suppose I will just have to be patient and buy what I NEED when it becomes available. It seems that it would be advantagous for some of these companies to step production up but then again I am no economist.

I have just decided to shoot a very minimal amount and make my last 1200 primers hold me over until all this crap blows over. I have debated on backordering etc..but surely this wont go on much longer and it will be back to normal.

Wandered into my local gun shop today to pick up some powders and CCI minimags.

ME: "I don't suppose you have some small pistol primers too?

SHOPKEEP: "Sure, how many do you want?"

ME: "How many have you got?"

SHOPKEEP: "A full shelf"

ME: "1000 CCIs will do me."

SHOPKEEP: "£23.00 (about $34)

I guess the horror stories are untrue then.

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Agreed. Earlier today (before reading this thread) I went to my local place and paid < $30 for 1,000 Winchester LR primers. I didn't specifically ask about SR or pistol primers but have no particular reason to believe that they are in short supply here.

"You are in a country not effected by "The Great One" so you should not feel the pain we are feeling.....yet"

Ah. But we do have to run the same gauntlet as you guys - we get our primers from America. Since the handgun ban most people shoot 'proper' rifles rather than pistol based carbines so obviously there isn't the same ratio of people all chasing the same primers. Having said that - a good guage to how real the shortage problem is worldwide is the price we're paying for those primers. It hasn't changed significantly from since well before anyone had even heard of Obama here. That gives me, and should give you guys, cause to consider that the shortage has peaked by and large.

How many primers could the folks in GB possibly use? No offense but didn't they register, then outlaw most of the firearms over there? A good percentage of gun owners in the states have more guns than they can remember, and some reloaders have more components than several large gun shops put together.

Craig