matai
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Hey, does anybody have any idea what rifles would have been issued to the Hungarian militias in Budapest prior to and during the uprising in 1956?
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1956 Hungarian Revolution Weapons
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Photos I've seen have included PPsh41s, 91/30s, and M44s.
MMCSRET
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I own an M44 built in Hungary in 1953. Wonder where it was????? I remember the news reports and news reals at the movies from that time, I was in 6th grade We didn't have television, but the radio was on all the time.
5knives
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As mentioned above, think late WWII equipment.
Can get lengthy but shortest reason is that USSR saw their defense as pre-positioned supply rings around the Moscow Center , Newest and best close, each succeeding ring got older weapons.
Client States like Hungary, Czechoslovakia, East Germany (with some exceptions) Poland, etc. got the oldest still serviceable equipment on hand.
In the event of a reserve call up, only troops were moved, and they were moved to the locations of the equipment they had trained with on their 2 years of active duty.
So the older and less 'durable' troops got moved the farthest away, faced any enemies first, and were followed by successive waves of younger, fresher trained troops with better weapons.
In '56 a Makarov was worth $10,000 to DOD, but first issued in 1952~54 none were to be had outside of the USSR proper, similar distribution pattern with the AK's. Current MIG's were worth a million of course, but unless they came from well inside the Country, they were the same airframe but not the latest avionics, engines, Armament, etc.
Current active troops serving inside the borders of the USSR always had the latest weapons.
Artillery, Tanks and other items were all controlled the same way.
That's why I say think late WWII weapons for Hungarian militia, that's all they could get their hands on, unless we helped ... and of course ... we did nothing!
Well, all IIRC and JMHO, but that's the way I remember it!
I was a lowly PFC at the time and wasn't privy to very many secrets!
Regards,
Can get lengthy but shortest reason is that USSR saw their defense as pre-positioned supply rings around the Moscow Center , Newest and best close, each succeeding ring got older weapons.
Client States like Hungary, Czechoslovakia, East Germany (with some exceptions) Poland, etc. got the oldest still serviceable equipment on hand.
In the event of a reserve call up, only troops were moved, and they were moved to the locations of the equipment they had trained with on their 2 years of active duty.
So the older and less 'durable' troops got moved the farthest away, faced any enemies first, and were followed by successive waves of younger, fresher trained troops with better weapons.
In '56 a Makarov was worth $10,000 to DOD, but first issued in 1952~54 none were to be had outside of the USSR proper, similar distribution pattern with the AK's. Current MIG's were worth a million of course, but unless they came from well inside the Country, they were the same airframe but not the latest avionics, engines, Armament, etc.
Current active troops serving inside the borders of the USSR always had the latest weapons.
Artillery, Tanks and other items were all controlled the same way.
That's why I say think late WWII weapons for Hungarian militia, that's all they could get their hands on, unless we helped ... and of course ... we did nothing!
Well, all IIRC and JMHO, but that's the way I remember it!
I was a lowly PFC at the time and wasn't privy to very many secrets!
Regards,
http://www.sunblest.net/gun/1956.htm
mostly soviet and German technologies.
a good read on the events'
http://www.hungary1956.com/1956_hungarian_revolution.htm
mostly soviet and German technologies.
a good read on the events'
http://www.hungary1956.com/1956_hungarian_revolution.htm
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