Carry gun while driving a commercial vehicle?

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My mother is a truck driver and has recently ask me about carring in her rig .
So i started to compile some info from places such as Packing.org and opencarry.org , When I stumbeld upon a very well written book named
somthing along the lines of "Gun laws of the fifty states" $9.99 at the local
sporting goods store.

In a nut shell I think if a trucker keeps a firearm in a locked container inaccesible from the driver compartment seperat from ammo and (dont stop unless for gas and emergency In certin states like DC and there is a couple others,) that would be compliant with all states.

That above is worst case senario, All states have their own laws like open carry is fine cc is not ecept with a permit and so on . I atempted to figgure witch CCPs she would need to cover the US completely, This is almost imposible , the best I found for her situation was have a MT permit among two others and that would cover most states ecept WA CA and most of the eastern seaboard states and a couple near the great lakes.

In that book there was a section on a Federal Interstate law,
Im shure someone knows the name of it but It refurs to Traveling across country to a destination and how you can legaly transport firearms through
a state that more or less Does Not alow firearms of any kind like DC,
As long as your traveling (IE traveling) through one of these Anti states
and do not stop unless for gas or an emergency you are within your rights.

So while talking with my mom I asked her if ther was a compartment that could be accesed from both the inside and outside of her truck , she said yes so I told her if she bought a firearm, that would be where i would put it. One reason if she got pulled over, and the state she happend to be in has to have the weapon in the trunk inaccecible to passenger compartment!!!

If done right everything would be fine.
 
As long as your traveling (IE traveling) through one of these Anti states and do not stop unless for gas or an emergency you are within your rights.
Technically true. However, if she were to be caught with an unlicensed handgun in New York City, for example, she would accrue sizeable attorney's fees to prevail.
 
Yea But she would be legal!!

Whitch brings me to my next question ,
Why is it that a state can work around a Federal Law like the one i talked about in previous post?
 
Also (please double check on this as well) they used to (I HEARD never did it myself) That they will hold your pistol at border for a day on USA side. (Did I mention check on this BEFORE you get close to border)?
 
Had to deliver on the Airbase yesterday, had ample warning so I left the gun in my car. It was a perfunctionary ID search only but this was going thru the regular entrance, as I passed the contractors entrance, they were physically searching the cabs and "wanding" the people. I asked if they would allow me to check my weapon in with the AP to which I was told no, I would just be refused entrance and they would contact the local police and my employer (had I been carrying) so I would suspect that anyone on this forum that assumes that the nice AP's are going to be "reasonable" have another "think" coming.
 
Canada and Military Bases

One idea is to contact gun shops in the area and ask if they offer gun cleaning services. If so, leave the gun there. Sort of a last resort. Expensive but better than losing your job (maybe).
 
Your Commercial Vehicle: No. Perfectly legal, as long as its locked up when it needs to be. Your truck, your rules. One of the great things about being an owner/op.

A company truck: No. Perfectly legal, as long as its locked up when it needs to be. But if they get wind of it you may get fired. So...

Keep enough money on hand for a bus ticket, plane ticket, rental car, as well as cabfare to wherever. Just in case they find out, and are dumb enough to fire you in the middle of a run.
 
There are no laws prohibiting firearms in commercial vehicles, but ALL state laws apply in whichever state you happen to be in!

My personal experience follows:

I was stopped by a State Trooper for a DOT inspection in Utah. Having a Utah Concealed Firearm Permit, I am required to notify any officer that contacts me that I am a permit holder. When the officer asked for my license and medical card, I mentioned that I had a permit and handed it to him with my license and medical. He asked if I had a gun. I told him I had one in the truck. He replied, "OK," handed back the permit, and proceeded with the inspection. He was perfectly nice about the whole thing and never said a word about my gun.

One thing that I am unclear about is whether or not there are any regulations regarding firearms in commercial vehicles while transporting hazmat. Does anyone know about that?
 
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Hi Scott.

It is illegal to carry a gun in a commercial vehicle, period. There are no permits or exceptions. I hear guys saying they carry guns. If it got stolen, or worse, you shot someone breaking in, you could be in a world of hurt too!

Bob Stephens

I wonder who appointed Bob Stephens the official answer man. :neener:
 
You may find this site helpful.

http://www.carryconcealed.net/packngo


What can protect you as you travel through anti states is the firearm owners protection act, signed by Reagan. Gun has to be in a locked compartment, away from occupants and ammo in a separate locked compartment.

Believe its referred to as safe passage.
 
Another thing to consider gentlemen.

When is a firearm not considered a firearm?

In many states that is when the gun is broken down in separate pieces and locked in separate compartments.

For instance. If I strip off the slide and barrel and stick it in a locked compartment, then put the frame, that also happens to have a trigger lock on it, in yet another locked compartment, do I really have a "firearm" in my vehicle or do I have parts of a firearm in my vehicle?
 
my employer will fire me for having a ccw in a work truck... i had to pull up Florida law to keep my job for having it in my personal truck in the parking lot at work... but that is county government for ya...
 
I did from time to time have a firearm in my rig when I drove over the 4 years I did it. Here is my deal. Most Armored cars fall into "comercial vehicals" and most of them are armed. Be aware however of the unsceen enemy here. Some places(not even states but localities) have miniscule off the wall laws. Like violence in the work place laws restricting weapon posession.
 
Tepidlake said:
I was stopped by a State Trooper for a DOT inspection in Utah. Having a Utah Concealed Firearm Permit, I am required to notify any officer that contacts me that I am a permit holder.
FYI, that regulation expired and was not renewed.

If I get stopped by a police officer, do I, as a permit holder, have to tell the officer that I have a gun in my possession?

Although there is no legal requirement to identify yourself to a law enforcement officer, it is recommended to do so.

If an officer finds or sees a gun on your person during their contact with you, and you have not identified yourself as a permit holder in legal possession of a firearm, the officer must assume you are carrying the gun illegally and will take defensive action. For the safety of all involved, it is better to immediately identify yourself to the officer as a permit holder in possession of a handgun. This action gives the officer some assurance they are most likely dealing with a law abiding citizen.
http://www.des.utah.gov/bci/FAQ.html#2
 
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If I get stopped by a police officer, do I, as a permit holder, have to tell the officer that I have a gun in my possession?

Although there is no legal requirement to identify yourself to a law enforcement officer, it is recommended to do so.


Actually that not entirely true. Some states DO REQUIRE you to infom a officer if you are stopped. You are responsible to follow the law in the state you are in.
 
hi there MR Guntalk Tom. You know that old DOT question oughta come up every now and then on Guntalk yet in the last 3 years of not missing a minute of the show only 400 callers have brought it up. someone ought make a armedtrucker.com website. my sarcasm button is now in neutral .
 
Actually that not entirely true. Some states DO REQUIRE you to infom a officer if you are stopped. You are responsible to follow the law in the state you are in.

And that is the truth. Individual State laws are what you have to worry about and in some cases, local laws as well.

That's why the NRA pushes Exemption laws, so laws are uniform Statewide and one doesn't stumble into a country or municipality and instantly become a criminal.

The only Federal Law that can protect you is the FOPA but you have to have the weapon and ammo stored properly.
 
larry_minn said:
Actually that not entirely true. Some states DO REQUIRE you to infom a officer if you are stopped. You are responsible to follow the law in the state you are in.
It is entirely true for Utah, which was the subject of the post I was responding to. The quoted information was from the State of Utah BCI site and pertains to Utah.
 
I've carried, or had access to, a PPK from border to border and water to water.

On occasion, it was an aggrivation.

Some consignees, rightly, insist that there be no passengers in the sleeper compartment, no cameras, no weapons, or 'near' weapons, etc.

Military, petro-chemical, USPS facilities, State and Federal correction facilities come to mind.

No doubt Homeland Security has ratcheted up 'right now' restrictions while the various laws take time to implement.

salty
 
Hm. Much different than my time out there. 15-20 years of brainwashing by the Company Stooges sprouting risk management.

If I get back into it, Im packing.
 
Johnny Dollar said:
Actually that not entirely true. Some states DO REQUIRE you to infom a officer if you are stopped. You are responsible to follow the law in the state you are in
Yes,10 states require that you must notify the officer that you are carrying.They are:

AK,LA,MI,NE,NC,OH,OK,SC,TX and UT.
Before we start making new laws here...

In Texas, you ONLY have to inform if you have a CHL.

If you do not have a CHL, you do not have to inform.

I love zombie threads :fire:
 
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