Correct hold for a handgun?

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While shooting my semi auto recently, I tried locking my arm at the elbow and shoulder in a strong straightening movement. Accuracy seemed to improve.

Please bear in mind that I am a novice and, like most Englishmen, have never received instruction on the correct way to hold a pistol. I'm trying to teach myself.

So I'd be grateful if you could tell me which of the following is true:

1. You have discovered the correct way to hold a handgun.

2. What you are doing is wrong.

3. There is more than one way to hold a pistol. Different techniques work for different shooters.
 
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Basic reading material

Google Weaver Stance and there's a
modified Weaver.

Don't lock your elbos - firm consistent
grip, your arms with bent elbos will absorb the
recoil, and then you regain sight picture.

Randall
 
What were you doing with the other hand?

A. Letting it dangle so as to shoot one handed in the traditional dueling or bullseye shooting manner? Then a long straight gun arm is a standard method.

B. Using it for support in one way or another? There are different approaches. Straight gun arm, straight support arm is known as the Isoceles stance because the two arms and breadth of the body form a triangle. A straight gun arm and a bent support arm is called the Chapman stance by those with the history, "modified Weaver" by those who don't.
Both arms bent lead to the Weaver stance which is absorbent of recoil but perhaps less precise.
The hand positions on the gun matter, too. What a golfer would call an overlapping grip is good.
 
It would be very helpful to be able to see a picture. See if you can get someone to take a picture of your grip on the pistol and then post it.
 
For your grasp on the handgun, much will depend on its grip shape and control locations. You don't want, for example, to hold it in such a way that slide stops, safeties and magazine releases (if a pistol) are activated while shooting.
 
Correct hold

I speak as a professional firearms instructor here. Be very careful with a lot of the information and instruction handed out on these "Expert Village" videos. Most of the "instructors" are just well intended amateurs or "wannabes" and what they are passing along is either vague, faulty and/or not correct, at best. Your best choice would be to seek out the services of a certified professional instructor.
 
I speak as a professional firearms instructor here. Be very careful with a lot of the information and instruction handed out on these "Expert Village" videos. Most of the "instructors" are just well intended amateurs or "wannabes" and what they are passing along is either vague, faulty and/or not correct, at best.
What specifically did you have quarrel with in the referenced videos?
 
Depends on what type of shooting you're training for?

I noticed in one of the links they discuss the straight thumb vs overlapping thumbs, recommending new shooters be taught the overlapping thumb for a number of reasons, but weapon retention was not mentioned.

When I took my CHP class, the instructor (former LEO) recommended the thumb over thumb as it was better for weapon retention.
 
Thanks a lot for all your responses.

I'll be following up all your leads, and will try to overcome my embarrasment and post a picture of the way I hold my gun, some time in the future.

I have two: a Glock 25 (looks like a 19 but is chambered for 380 - S American restrictions on caliber) and a CZ 75 Kadet in 22lr.

You won't be surprised that I'm shooting the 22 better than the 380, and doing reasonably well out to 25 metres.

I suppose I've been using, or trying to use, the isoceles stance.

I can get most of my 380 shots inside the black at 15 metres but the grouping is not good.

Whatever the inconvenience, I think I'll have to start inspecting the target after each shot, instead of after each string of five, to try and figure out what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks again for all your help.

By the way, am I alone in not particularly liking the feel or operation of the Glock trigger?

I know it's a bad workman who criticizes his tools, but I prefer the trigger on the CZ 83, and wish I'd bought that gun instead.
 
Hold firmly so that the tip of the index finger rests comfortably on the trigger. Pull straight back.
 
just avoid the damn teacup hold and wrist supporting hold... they are the most rediculous things I have ever seen.... follow instuction of previous posts and you will be fine... Just make an effort to practice with every shot. Your shooting will improve drastically if you are patient and try to improve with every shot.
 
Remember the isometric push-pull portion.................push with the gun hand and pull with the offhand.
 
Remember the isometric push-pull portion.................push with the gun hand and pull with the offhand.
Of course there is an opposing school of thought. No pun intended.
 
I' ve caught some flak about this earlier, but I still think that apart from the very basic principles of sight picture, trigger control and such, # 3 goes.
Different things work for different people.
 
Indeed, different things do work for different people.

First of all, don't become discouraged at your groups, when I started pistol shooting just over a year ago my groups were atrocious at best :uhoh:

A guy at the range said he would help me out and in fact most of what he taught me is repeated in that Jarrett video above - stance, grip, tip of finger on trigger pad & squeezing, sight picture. Watch it a few times and note down the points he makes.

It's a LOT to take in so I spent countless hours addressing one aspect of the above and focusing primarily on that every trip to the range, I found it better to take it one step at a time...while evidently being conscious of the other aspects.

Most difficult part for me was learning how to hold the pistol correctly in the web of my hand, it wasn't natural to me and took time to erase that tendency I had, difficult to explains but it's in 38-1.04 of the video.

learn with your .22lr and tighten up the groups before shooting the .380 - you can practice and hone your skills with thousands of rounds for next to nothing as ammo is so cheap and it's all transferable to bigger calibres - in some ways I'm glad here(Luxembourg) we have to do 1 year of 22lr pistol before moving up to centerfire.

I'd also recommend shooting strings of 5 or 10 rounds before looking at your spotting scope(guessing you're shooting at 25m ? ). I found shooting one round and looking at the spotting scope is counterproductive.

I also found it difficult to have a blurry target and focus solely on the sights.

On a standard 25m target my average 10 shots would be 3-4 in the 10 and the rest in the 9 area - occasionally I have 1/2 shots in the 8....but that's after hundreds of hours, thousands upon thousands of rounds downrange.

I've spent much of the past 6-9 months shooting pistols to the detriment of my rifle shooting but it is incredibly rewarding when you get it right and see the improvement.

like most sports, get the basics down and then practice,practice, practice

as for the glock trigger....well a friend hates his glock/doesn't want to sell it but wants to keep one in his collection. As I was restricted to 22 for 12 months he said I could reload and shoot his til I get my own 9mm. I wasn't a fan of it but it has grown on me a lot. It's not a competition pistol afterall.

To sum it all up - don't be discouraged, try to address one aspect at a time on every trip to the range - obviously incorporating the other aspects but really focusing on perfecting one and practice as much as you can.

I'm glad I learnt how to shoot with proper technique before moving to 9mm but I got a LOT of hassle from guys at my club shooting a S&W 41 with two hands :scrutiny:
 
I'm not an expert nor do I play one on the internet. But I do like to observe pistol shooters hands when they are on the line firing at IDPA or USPSA matches. One thing I see some new shooters do consistently is minutely shift the grip of their support hand. Meaning they don't grip the gun the same way after a reload, malfunction, etc. Consistency in the grip is also key. There is a a lot of great advice here. The video that did it for me and gave me that aha! moment was the Todd Jarret pistol grip lesson video on youtube.:)

best regards,

Luis Leon
 
I speak as a professional firearms instructor here. Be very careful with a lot of the information and instruction handed out on these "Expert Village" videos. Most of the "instructors" are just well intended amateurs or "wannabes" and what they are passing along is either vague, faulty and/or not correct, at best. Your best choice would be to seek out the services of a certified professional instructor.

did you want to maybe throw out some helpful information, or in your professional opinion, should that cost money here too? :neener:
 
correct hold

If you even had an inkling of what professional firearms training consisted of...you wouldn't be making such a patently absurd statement... and oh, I am doing very well with my own small school presently, thank you. The above advice is FREE Mr, Funderb..!!
 
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