Most progun movie ever, The Strangers?

The Patriot - I saw it differently...

TeamPrecisionIT

Patriot is definitely pro-gun but in more of a pride and political defense type of way,...

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In the scenes just before Mel Gibson’s fist shoot-em-up, he was treating both Colonial and British wounded soldiers when Col. Tavington arrived and killed Gibson's defenseless child. At that point I felt that his motivation was vengeance for his murdered son and to save his eldest son from the same fate.

Its only later that his motivation turns to patriotism - just my spin on it.....9x23

@9x23 - History of Violence was excellent - especially the first scene in the restaurant. That's what bugs me about 30.06 laws (Texas - businesses can still deny access to CHL holders). My gun isn't going to do me any good out in the car.

Also, before there was Patriot, there was Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day Lewis. Particularly the exchanges between the standard army colonel and the leaders of the volunteers (private gun owners). Really illustrates the divide between nanny-statists who will take care of you and the rest of us who want to take care of ourselves.

Tsk, tsk - It's not nice to bring guns to work...

Illanite

My gun isn't going to do me any good out in the car.

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+1 - Yep, when some digruntled employee, who intends to do harm and cares nothing about their company's gun ban policy, comes to work on that horrible day it's a good thing that policy is in place because somebody other than innocent people might have gotten hurt!

Unless there are metal detectors I'd be packing - just do it very discretely.....9x23

After twenty years in martial arts I am really hard to watch a movie with. These people did just about EVERYTHING wrong. First of all, if you were in the position of the Liv Tyler character would you have answered the door? She was in a strange house where NOBODY knew her at 4:00 AM. When someone knocked on the door she just opened it. She didn't even holler "Who is it"?
STUPID!
The buddy that came in the house and was shot by accident did not announce his presence. I would NEVER walk into someones home, not even my parents at 4:00 AM without loudly announcing my presence and receiving a verbal acknowledgment before strolling into the bedroom. Then there was the part where the beleaguered couple split up. This always goes bad in every movie you have ever seen. Remember the part where the girl runs outside and trips? What does she do? She crawls back into the house! She should have hid in the woods. The whole movie was a clinic on what NOT to do in a home invasion. The one thing that did stand out though was one line right at the end that made my blood run cold. The couple were tied up just before being stabed and the Liv Tyler character asked the killers "Why are you doing this?" Their answer was

"Because you were home."

Sometimes psychopaths don't need a reason to kill you, just an opportunity.

Almost like any situation, the movie can be interpreted in different ways by different people. Reminds me of "Animal Farm." I thought of the book as THE anti-communism book. But nonetheless, one of my leftist minded teachers interpreted it as pro-communism. Fortunately, 90% of the class disagreed.

"Gran Torino" is what I see as the best pro-gun movie right now. If Clint didn't have that M1 and 1911 he wouldn't have scared off the gangsters and that family could have died early in the movie. When the Hmong boy (can't remember name) runs into Clint's house and grabs the M1 while he's cleaning the firearms and points it at Clint he says, "which one is mine?" Clint pushes it away and makes a statement that clearly says if you don't know how to use a gun, then don't use it.

I would think more anti's would see the movie and get the message if it wasn't so full of hilarious or offensive language directed towards minorities.

Would being able to make sweet love to Liv Tyler be worth the subsequent night of terror? I would say no, but I had to think about that one for a minute.

They totally could've wasted those people had they been trained and efficient with a firearm. When the protagonist guy (Liv's boyfriend) holed up with the shotgun, I saw the accidental shooting coming from a mile away, even before his friend arrived.

Another good pro-gun movie - The Devil's Rejects. If those people in the hotel had armed themselves, they would have stood a chance.

Anyone got any other suggestions for good horror movies? I mean modern stuff, not the boring Night of the Living Dead crap.

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If you actually thought the original Night Of The Living Dead was boring crap, then no.

When the Hmong boy (can't remember name)...

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His name was Thao (or Toad )

Great movie. Just watched it tonight

I suppose people will come away from this movie with whatever opinion they have about guns reinforced. The part where the buddy is accidentally killed reflects the antis philosophy that you are more likely to kill a friend of family member than an intruder because you are too incompetent to be trusted with firearms. ONLY the police and military have the training, the judgment and the wisdom to safely use firearms and that "good" people don't own guns. In fact, they don't even "know how to load the thing". That should be left to the professionals.

People like us know better.

I'm sorry, it lost its "pro-gun cred" when it went incorporated the typical anti-gun cliche that use of a gun in self defense will more likely cause you to kill a friend or family member by accident.

That was my initial impression as well but people report that the movie has actually had a pro-gun effect on the sheep. I asked a friend who likes watching horror flicks if he and his wife had seen it and he basically said she wants guns to prepare for the zombie apocalypse.

Remember, a lot of people don't think logically and thus don't prepare for or anticipate bad things. They operate on emotion so they empathize or feel. The movie makes them empathize with the characters and makes them start considering self-defense when they otherwise would not have (aside from being victimized directly).

Self Defense?

TeamPrecisionIT -

Vengeance isn't necessarily self defense.

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I never said it was self defense. But self defense might be inferred in this case because eveyone that Benjamin kills now is one less who will come looking to kill him later.

As a homicide investigator, I noticed that when there was time for premeditation in cases of justifiable homicide (self defense) there was always at least a tinge of vengence in the act. This, of course, is anecdotal since it's only one investigator's observation and less than 20 cases.

And so what...who wouldn't get ticked off when a BG is attempting to cause great bodily harm of inflict death on someone!.....9x23

It wasn't a movie that got me thinking about having a gun, it was a book...."The Road".

I think "History of Violence" was one of the most under-rated movies in the past few years, excellent flick. Has anyone seen "The Brave One" with Jodie Foster? Its a payback type movie but definetly not anti-gun.

The Road.... there aren't enough guns in the world to help you out of that SHTF situation!

However, Cormac McCarthy's No Country for Old Men hits a lot closer to home - I've been through a lot of that country...

If anybody wants to see a film with even dumber victims than The Strangers, I highly recommend Them - the French film The Strangers was adapted from. Same basic premise, but no "Dad's old shotgun" and the killers turn out to be children.

Yeah - I know that's a spoiler, but I doubt anybody would actually suffer through the whole film.

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