New rifle - Remington 700 PSS/XCR? with LTR type fluting, and AICS stocks?

AirPower · Jun 15, 2009

I just got a new rifle. It's a .308 Remington 700 PSS on AICS 1.0 stock, and Nikon Tactical 2.5-10x44 scope. Do you have more info on whether this combination would make it a good medium range rifle? I'm wondering if it's enough glass for the gun, or maybe I can use a cheaper scope since I'm not shooting 600yd+ range?

My curiosity rose because the action doesn't say Remington 700 PSS or Police or anything. It's just straight "Remington 700". Is it suppose to have "PSS" or some type of markings on it? It also comes with factory fluted 26" barrel, 3 flutes, is that enough of a telltale sign of the PSS? Is the PSS a better or comparable action to the current Rem700 SPS Tactical?

I checked the barrel and action with magnet, it'll stick. So it looks like they're not Stainless steel. Any suggestions what the true model this could be? It was suggested this is really a Remington 700 XCR Tactical Long Range, the XCR suppose to have Stainless barrel.

Plus this rifle has the LTR type 3 flute barrel, but the barrel is 26" instead of 20". Did Remington do LTR type fluting, but with 26" barrel?

The stock system itself feels very comfortable, but there are no markings. I was expecting AICS or something molded into the sides as identification. I'm pretty sure it is AICS 1.0 since it looks just like what I've seen in photos. How much does the AICS 1.0 improve on the original stock?

MCMXI · Jun 15, 2009

AirPower, congratulations on a great looking rifle. I have a couple of Remington 700 actions in AICS stocks and absolutely love them. The AICS stocks are among the best out there for Remington 700 actions and your particular one retails for about $750. I have the 1.5 series which includes an adjustable cheekpiece but that's about it. There are no markings on an AI stock so don't worry about that. That stock looks to be 100% genuine AI ... in fact, I'd bet my life on it. Looks like you have the standard 5-round magazine. You can buy 10-round AI magazines plus some other companies make compatible magazines for that stock.

As for the barrel and action, I bet it's an XCR Tactical Long Range with the TriNyte coating. The 26" barrel is 416 stainless which is MAGNETIC ...

. Does it have an externally adjustable trigger? The XCT TLR comes with a 40-X trigger. Also, where's the original Bell and Carlson stock ... I'd buy that off you in a heartbeat? Anyway, the XCR TLR is an $1100 rifle so the stock and action/barrel are up around $1850 not including the scope. The scope base alone (Badger Ordnance or similar) is at least $100 not to mention those rings (can't tell what they are).

This will make an excellent 600 yard rifle with the scope that you have. You can always upgrade the barrel, bolt and optics if you need to in the future. So how much did you have to fork out to take this beauty home with you?

AirPower · Jun 15, 2009

Thanks 1858, that's really good info you have there, I really appreciate it. I never thought about SS barrel being magnetic but this will definitely make more sense. That type of LTR type factory fluting is pretty rare on 26" Remington barrel, and this one is not 20" LTR barrel.

How do you know if the trigger is the externally adjustable 40x type? Is there a telltale sign? I can't seem to locate any small screws or some type of adjustment close to the trigger.

You have a sharp eye, the rail is marked as Badger Ordnance. Hopefully that's a steady piece. The rings are ARMS 22L quick detachable throw lever type, and they work well with the rail. The Nikon Tactical 2.5-10x44 is the forerunner to the current Monarch X series. I almost thought it's too much glass for the rifle, but I haven't had time to shoot yet.

As for the price, I hope you'll agree that $1200 is an excellent price for the entire set up as pictured.

Everything is like new in condition, but the original owner didn't keep the original XCR stock (Bell & Carlson?) but I guess that's not worth going back to after the AICS stock.

P.B.Walsh · Jun 15, 2009

Wow!!! That whole rig only cost $1200!!! That's a great deal!!!!

How clear is that Nikon, how much did the scope cost, does it have "tactical" turrets?

MCMXI · Jun 15, 2009

$1200!!

:banghead:

UNBELIEVABLE .... the original B&C stock isn't cheap but it's not even close to $750 and doesn't offer you the flexibility of detachable 5 or 10-round magazines. Basically you SCORED BIG TIME!!

Badger Ordnance makes top quality gear. I have their bases on my Rifles along with their tactical bolt knobs. Their bases run about $140 so another bonus for you.

As for the trigger, if it's a 40-X you should be able to see an adjustment screw at the front/top of the trigger. If you can't, my best guess is that whoever sold the rifle removed the trigger and installed a regular Remington trigger. It sure doesn't look like you have a Jewell which is what you should add anyway. I have Jewell triggers in all three of my 700s and I won't even consider anything else. If you want a virtually unused X-Mark Pro trigger then PM me and we can work something out. My Alaskan Ti came with an X-Mark Pro and if you like ZERO creep and 2-1/2lb of pull then it's the one for you. Personally, I like the tiny bit of spring-loaded take-up on the Jewell trigger before it breaks ... but that's my preference.

The original B&C stock is very nice ....

http://www.remington.com/products/f...del_700/model_700_XCR_tactical_long_range.asp

... but the AICS is definitely a serious upgrade. The B&C with Badger botom metal and AI or Badger magazines would be useful and functional though.

When are you going to shoot it ... I'd love to read all about it? I've wanted an XCR TLR for a while now but they're not easy to find. I would prefer a shorter barrel to reduce weight but it sure is a great rifle.

AirPower · Jun 15, 2009

The Nikon scope is included in the $1200, which I originally though it's worth only $200 like a Buckmaster. Not being a bolt gun guy, that's why I thought it's a fair price for $1000 for the rifle+stock, and $200 for the scope, though I didn't have much money to spend anyway. I have always wanted a Remington 700 Tactical, and I kept thinking that $600 is about a fair price for 700 and didn't think this is as good of deal as you're saying.

But apparently the Nikon Tactical is their top of the line scopes in the $700-800 range. It does come with "tactical" 1/4 adjustment turrets. The only possible drawback is that it has the traditional duplex reticle, not mildot or anything fancy. It does keep the sight picture clear though. The optic is very bright, I like it better than my Tasco scope. I never had a medium to high priced scope to compare to, so it just looks really good to me.

As for the trigger, I'll check it out when I get home tonight. I don't remember seeing a screw there. I remember there appears to be a small lever or plate or something toward top/front of the trigger.

MCMXI · Jun 15, 2009

AirPower, you are one lucky ****** ... :cuss:

but good for you to find such a deal. Even if the barrel were shot out it'd STILL be a good deal since a new Krieger barrel would cost less than $500 installed. If you aren't happy with the reticle, you could contact Nikon to see if you can upgrade the reticle. Or you could sell the scope and buy another. If that scope is $700 as you mentioned, then you bought a $2500 setup for $0.50 on the dollar.

AirPower said:
As for the trigger, I'll check it out when I get home tonight. I don't remember seeing a screw there. I remember there appears to be a small lever or plate or something toward top/front of the trigger.

That's the bolt release ... now I'm really envious ... you've never owned a 700 before and yet your first one is THIS! :fire:

DRYHUMOR · Jun 15, 2009

Timing is everything.

Nice rifle.

AirPower · Jun 16, 2009

Thanks for the input. From another member at Snipershide, it seems this was an uncatalogued dealer special from a few years ago, basically a long barrel version of LTR. The trigger doesn't have adjustment, but it is very crisp, might have been tuned already.

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