Whats the best lie you had a gun seller tell you

The lie, Mud pup, is the malicious intentions of scaring people into paying too much, and using baseless claims to get your points across instead of solid reasoning based in reality.

Sometimes a gun sellers opinion is interpreted as a lie by the people who have read too many horrible gun rags.

Sometimes a gun sellers opinion is interpreted as a lie by the people who have read too many horrible gun rags

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And a lot of times they put greed and the need to service their ego ahead of ethics and knowledge.

That my Llama Mini-max 9mm is 'virtually worthless' because they dont manufacture them anymore.

I thought that when something becomes rare after a period of time it increases the value. stupid me.

Oh and I forgot the one that a walmart clerk told my grandpa and myself. There is an ammo shortage because the President secretly ordered all the manufacturers to start laser engraving serial numbers onto every bullet produced. So after the new ammo comes out it will be a federal offense to own ammo that isnt serialized.

"These here 5.7 bullets will easily penetrate even armored plate! I've seen it at our steel-challenge shoots!"

While at a local gunshop this weekend, a kid was asking about a Taurus Raging Bull. Specifically asked about recoil and how bad it was. The clerk replied that it kicks like a mule and you won't like it. I piped up and stated I don't know, it was kind of a pussycat when I fired my friends. The clerk then goes on about how heavy the barrel is, and how it really isn't that bad to shoot. He was an artist, a regular Van Gogh, and his medium was BS.

Here's a couple. A customer in a gun shop said, "The scope you sold me is no good because I can't hit anything when I shoot off hand. If I rest the gun, the scope stays zeroed, but off hand it won't. I know it's not me because I had my buddy try it and it does the same thing."

A salesman in a shop..."The AK-47 is only good out to 100 yards, maybe 150."

Heres a horrible one, didn't happen to me, but rather to a friend.

Guy JUST got a VZ.58, the first gun HE has owned to the best of my knowledge, me and my father helped him through the process and everything, and he picked it up just on Saturday. Sunday he decided he was going to take it to the range, called an indoor range asked if he could shoot it there, the first minor lie was them telling him he could, the range actually wont allow anything but pistols and .22's....

He didn't realize though, so he heads over there figuring he's going to put some rounds through the thing, and when he gets in, the clerk starts telling him a few things....all about how he's somehow breaking the law....the rifle is a standard VZ.58, fixed stock, and no bayonet lug. Perfectly legal in CT, clerks telling him it ISN'T legal in CT, and ALSO proceeds to tell him that it's illegal to transport a firearm at all in CT without a carry permit or a hunting license....

Yup, appearently even though they'll SELL to you, you'll be breaking the law according to this guy as soon as you try to take it home if you don't have a carry permit or hunting license....

"These here 5.7 bullets will easily penetrate even armored plate! I've seen it at our steel-challenge shoots!"

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I would have a hard time believing that 5.7 would go through AR-500 armor plate, which is the standard for Steel Challenge targets. However, I have no doubt that 5.7, being a high-velocity bottle-necked cartridge would greatly accelerate the wear and tear on Steel Challenge targets given that Steel Challenge is shot at ranges of between 10-30ish yards.

I brought a girl-friend into the local gun store to see about buying a gun for herself. The gentleman who owns/runs the shop was out sick so his wife was running the place. (Nothing against women; DON'T GO THERE). She wanted to basically "Sell" my friend on different guns. I figured, what the hell. I'll look around. Maybe a women's perspective might be a good thing. After all, they were both built about the same. So I go looking around. Luckily; I get back in time to correct a few problems the lady was saying, and my friend was almost buying off on. Here's some questions, answers, and comments.

Friend: "How do I open this gun up to put the ammunition in"? (REVOLVER)
Saleswoman: "Like this.... Oh, you're left handed. You can't shoot this gun, it won't work right; but we can special order a left handed model for you.

Friend: "My friend said (Me) that this revolver would be good because the caliber has a lot of different bullet weights and powder, so I can find the right ammo that feels right and shoots good for me; with room to grow"
Saleswoman: "Well, your friend isn't totally correct. You can find ammo that shoots best for you, but all the bullets are the same exact size. The grain you see on the box is how much powder it has. So, the 147 grain 38 special is more powerful than the 125 grain because it's got 22 grains more powder".

Friend: "My friend (me) said that this 357 magnum revolver would be a good choice because it can shoot the 38 specials and therefor opens up many different ammunitions from very light to very powerful".
Saleswoman: "Again, your friend (Me) isn't correct. All bullets are measured in metric or inches. The 357 magnum is .357 inches in size. The 38 special is .38 inches in size. It's a lot bigger than the 357 and won't fit in the 357 magnum revolver. But that doesn't matter, because the 38 is so much bigger, that it's more powerful than the 357 anyway".

I can't even imagine what else she said while I was away shopping. Those were just the 3 conversations I heard standing there. Needless to say that I straightened my friend out. Told here that the gun shop was "Normally" a very good place to shop. Just that this woman didn't know what she was talking about. So I said it's best if you just feel the different guns and don't ask questions of the lady. My friend walked out with a 38 special S&W Airweight model 638. She's happy, and it's the perfect gun for her. I can only imagine what she would have walked out with if I wasn't there.

The grain you see on the box is how much powder it has.

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This misconception is much more prevalent than you would think.

If I had about a hundred bucks for every time a gun store employee told me they didn't stock something they actually had or they had something that they never stocked, I'd have a few new guns.

Usually its because the employee has absolutely no idea of what item I'm looking for, but is too embarassed or arrogant to admit it.

This misconception is much more prevalent than you would think.

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Evidently, I have seen it in this thread more than a couple times.

they had something that they never stocked

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Ran into that about a week ago. I was looking for a CZ550 Safari to shoulder and called a local shop, I asked if it was an American or Euro (hogsback) stock because I wanted to handle both. Response: We have several, all have American stocks. Come to find out the only thing American about the stocks was where they were located.

Got to get me one of those left-handed revolvers!

GOT A DIFFICULT ONE HERE

Can't remember the number of times I've been asked not to dry fire a pistol because it damages the weapon. Now, I'm sure that there will be various responses to this and I am not considering myself a subject matter expert or engineer. That being said, when I served in the military we trained with our weapons by dry firing them hundreds upon hundreds of times doing nickel and dime drills. Taking that into account and multiplying that number by how many soldiers did the same to each weapon.....and the fact that we never had problems with our RIFLES (and there could be some phenomenon that I'm not aware of that affects rifles differently than pistols) leads me to believe that this is a lie. That and the fact that I have to believe that a firing pin being released and hitting nothing is slightly less damaging than a firing pin being released and striking a metal primer that releases approximately 58,000 PSI of chamber pressure (M- 4 carbine). I've never seen a firing pin destroyed in a dry fire but I have seen it happen in a live fire.

Got to get me one of those left-handed revolvers!

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They are rare and collectible (there probably is ONE).

kw11b2p, there are some firearms (mostly rimfire) that shouldn't b dry fired. The are designed to impact soft lead in the forward direction of travel and that stops the pin preventing peening. Most firearms (pistols and rifles) are okay to dry fire, but as a general rule I will not dry fire someone else's firearm.

Christcorp you owe me a new keyboard, it shorted out from the pepsi I spit out all over it!!

MAVERICK223

Thank you for the response and increase in knowledge...this is the perfect example of why I love this site. Thanks again.

The left handed revolver does exist in common production, and is made by charter arms. They have a regular model and the 'Pink Lady' edition made specifically for women shooters .. so it's not strange that the store clerk said she could order one. Might want to check your facts before you make fun sometimes fellas

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Southpaw_93820.html
http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_PinkLadyLH_93830.html

Thank you for the response and increase in knowledge...this is the perfect example of why I love this site.

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NP, kw11b2p I love this place too.

I wasn't making fun for her saying she'd order a Left Handed Revolver. I know for a fact they exist. I have shot them. What I thought was funny; was that she told my friend that the revolver she was holding WOULDN'T WORK because it was for right handed people. And that she would NEED to order a left handed model.

I was at a local gun store looking at a 1911, as I'm looking at the weapon the salesman begins telling me about the gun: where its made, how its made etc. after I looked over the gun I asked why it was marked "new" his obvious reply was "because it is" I then asked him why it had all kinds of powder residue in the barrel and about the brass coloring on the ejection port. this morons answer was " all manufacturers test fire thier weapons and they dont clean them afterwards" I could tell that the pistol had MANY rounds fired through it not just one or two so I politly handed the gun back thanked him for his time and left the store!

I was in a local shop looking at a pre-WWII S&W Military & Police. I am no expert on S&W revolvers but I am familiar with them, so I ask to look at this one because one does not often get a chance to add a pre-war S&W revolver to the collection. It was obvious that the gun had been refinished by the factory because the star stamp was on just about every serialized part. It was a very well done job. Even the case-colored parts were gorgeous. The revolver had been restored to a great state. It was priced a bit high, but not too out of line. So I was taking my time looking at it, and the clerk must have decided I was on the edge of buying it or not. In his mind, I needed a push.

So he unloads his push. "You better buy that one because you will never see one like it again. They only made a few of those guns."

My response, "Really?"

Him: "Yup, Ruger made them last year for S&W. That is titanium."

I had one tell me the truth! No lie!

He said he was getting 1" groups with the rifle (M70 Coyote in .308). Well, I proved him right, I was getting about 1" groups also. Try as I might, I just couldn't get em any tighter.

I decided to sell the rifle, and as I was taking pics of it I noticed something in the barrel. Borescoped it, and found damage about an inch or so in.

I knew then why it wouldn't group any tighter.

It's on my to do list to cut and recrown.

I had a seller at a gunshow offer a genuine Iron Cross for 30 dollars. He said you could tell because they were made of real iron and were magnetic. I was a little skeptical and did not want to spend 30 dollars on something I was unsure of. I am still not sure if he was telling the truth.