problems with scope on 10FP

New scope and new mount?? How are you checking alinement,Pull bolt ,look through barrel and site? New scope should be centerd more or less from factory but you could run it to the limits and then recenter by click count and then see how much off. Also run a straight edge up the barrel centerline and over the drilled holes to get a loose check on the holes in your action. Might be better to go to tally if a nice looking unit is wanted or maybe pull out and old site of Weavers to try.

Maybe you can get it right with just a mount change. The dnz is a nice look'n mount. If the gun is the problem call savage and get a return order and see how they want you to ship it back. It would seem odd for it to be the holes in action are off but as many guns as manufactors are putting out today quality has slipped a bit at times .Look at all the s&w returns we read about now adays . Couple years ago returns were more whin'n than substance.

Is the scope body/tube pointing in a different direction than the barrel, or are the crosshairs pointing way off?

If you can tell the body of the scope is pointing way off then that's bad...
Could be the scope base or the mounting holes in the reciever.

If the crosshairs are way off but you cannot tell if the scope body is misaligned then that could have an easy explination. Sometimes scopes sent from the factory are adjusted way to one side.

If it's the crosshairs, then try this:
-Turn the windage adjustment all the way to one side.
-Turn the windage all the way to the other side, but count the number of clicks or note the number of turns it takes to get to the other side.
-Once you know the number of clicks/turns, then adjust the windage back in the other direction but only turn the adjustment half of the number of clicks/turns. That should give you close to the mechanical center for windage.
-Next step is to do the same thing with the elevation.
-After that, stick it back in the base and check to see if the crosshairs are pointing close the same direction of the bore.

I don't see how it'd be possible to mount the base if the Savage action holes were off. The Savage has a round receiver front AND back and the underside of the DNZ base is precisely machined . There's no front/back (yaw I guess you could call it) adjustment of the base relative to the receiver. The base as a unit can rotate around the receiver but that's it. If the holes were off, you wouldn't be able to get all four screws started, or if you could, it'd be obvious that the base wasn't sitting flush on the receiver.

Get a long 1" wooden dowel, a straight one. Or a 1" nylon rod, or steel, aluminum, etc. One as long as the entire rifle. Set it in the rings and hand tighten them. Set the rifle in a rest. That would be about the best visual indication.

If it's off, make sure you you take a photo. My speculation would be the rings are not true with the base. With a straight plane to look at, your eyes aren't fooled as easily.

If that's the case, go here

http://www.talleymanufacturing.com/rings.php

DRYHUMOR said:

My speculation would be the rings are not true with the base.

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If you managed to mount the DNZ to the receiver without any issues then I'd agree with DRYHUMOR. However, I'd contact DNZ first. It's not a Chinese knock-off of DNZ is it? Either way, I'm sure DNZ would be interested in helping you out.

Especially with a photo as a visual aid.

Anaxagoras1986 said:

The thing is that the DNZ game reaper is a "one piece" unit that is a base and rings combo.

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We all know what a DNZ is ... but the ring part of the mount could be out of alignment (tweaked, twisted, bent) relative to the base part of the mount. What we're saying is, if the DNZ was easily mounted to the receiver with no obvious issues, then it's highly likely that the rings are twisted relative to the base. The fact that your scope is able to rotate freely as well as move forwards and backwards seems that both rings are aligned with each other, just not with the base (DNZ is one-piece we know). If that's the case, something went wrong in production so I'd still contact DNZ and see what they have to say.

Is this a new gun as well? Sounds like the holes may not be drilled and tapped correctly. That used to be fairly common. That is why the windage adjustable Leupold rings and bases were made. To correct for improperly drilled holes.

If this is true changing to that type of mount is the easiest fix. Or sending the rifle back. I suppose it is possible the barrel or reciever may not be threaded straight as well. Bought a Ruger Blackhawk that came from the factory that way once.

Send the rings/ bases back for a refund.

Get some burris weaver style zee bases or warne bases and either burris signature zee rings, or warne rings.

You problem will be solved.

Anaxagoras1986 said:

After following DNZs reccommendation of rotating the base/ring assy 180 degrees I have found that the scope is still visibly pointing to the left. This means that it is not the base and scope but rather the rifle itself.

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Uh ... no it doesn't. I still don't believe that you could easily start and tighten all four base mounting screws if the tapped holes were off. On a two-piece base it wouldn't be a problem. I'm still betting that the mount is off rather than the receiver but with measurements I'm just guessing.

This is what I'd do ... remove the DNZ mount, start all four screws in the receiver holes (just one or two threads), put a 12" straight edge (ruler) up against all four screw threads (they should line up), and draw a line with a fine felt tip pen or permanent marker over the barrel nut and onto (along) the barrel as far as you can. You'll soon see if the screw holes are off relative to the centerline of the barrel. Post a photo of the results if you have access to a digital camera.

Anaxagoras1986 said:

Sure it does. If it was the base/rings- rotating the assy 180 degress should invert the issue and make the scope point to the right.

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Start by assuming that all four tapped holes in the receiver line up with the centerline of the barrel. Also assume that the rings on the DNZ mount have somehow been machined off axis so that the scope tube isn't aligned with the screws on the base. The drawing on the left shows the scope pointing to the left of the centerline of the rifle (assuming that the barrel is pointing up). The screw holes are shown in the mount for reference purposes only. If you remove the base without removing the scope, rotate the base 180° and reinstall all four screws, the drawing on the right shows the position of the scope tube relative to the centerline of the barrel after rotation. The scope is STILL pointing to the left of the centerline of the barrel. So what has rotating the base confirmed?

I had a similar experience with a picatinny rail on a Savage. The thing was so far out of whack I could not zero the gun using all of the windage available in the scope. I had no idea what was wrong and was going nutz. A friend of mine let me use a rail he had and his scope to test the components and identify the problem. Using a different rail and a different scope did not fix the problem. It turned out that the holes in the receiver were slightly off. Looking at the receiver by itself, it was impossible to detect. A few thousands of an inch will throw it way out of kilt and you will never see it by eye-balling it. I sent the gun back to Savage and they installed a brand new receiver. Savage is a great company that makes the best firearms for the money today.

towards the front part of the stock you can see that the gap between the barrel and stock is smaller on the right side of the gun vs the left. Seems a bit odd...

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That's not uncommon. You'll find somewhat poor stock fit in all but the highest end guns.