how do you define anti?

Someone who is blindly and irrationally against firearms.


Thus, after you've shown them the light as to how frequently firearms SAVE the lives of good guys...

or how CCW/LTCF/CCP holders are more law abiding than sworn Law Officers...

or how states/area with "gun control" are much more likely to have gun violence...

or how weapons are never unsafe, it's the operator that causes that condition...

or how clear our Founding Fathers were in their intent of "shall not be infringed"...

they STILL are against firearms.


Of course, we all know that when the balloon flies, these morons will be the first to be "Darwin'ed" out of existence. Some comfort ;-)

So I was wondering, what is your definition of an anti?

Must someone hate guns to be anti or can they be a gun lover? Can be a gun lover

Can someone be an avid shooter and still an anti? Yes

Can someone be for certain guns and against others and be an anti?Yes

You see where I am going with this... give me your definition.



I work with a guy that does alot of shotgun hunting. He supports the AWB we have here in NY. Thinks that 10 round magazines, are more than enough. Also believes that rifles that take the .50bmg round should be unavailible to the average citezen. I have asked him once what about when they try to ban sporting shotguns his response and I quote "that will never happen". My response to that. "So hows the new van running?" As I knew the conversation was going nowheres. I dont want to sound like an idiot, but I dont think there should be any regulations on firearms. Period. But I can accept certain things without a huge fuss such as background checks and pistol permits, but not the kind that will take 2 years to get. In my eyes this guy I work with is an anti. Because there is nothing wrong with 30 round magazines. I have seen some pretty darn fast mag changes. And we all know how many crimes have been committed with the .50. An anti can come in any form. Its the "hurray for me, screw you" attitude and its sad. Josh

Obama, Feinstein, Boxer, Kennedy, Schumer, McCarthy, Clinton, Sotomayor.

An avid shooter or someone who loves gun's doesn't qualify as anti. Here's my take on anti's:

1. Someone will protect me. Police/whoever
2. Everyone is basically good
3. I carry a whistle
4. I'm a good person so nobody would want to hurt me
5. Only insensitive brutish people like guns
6. Someday we'll all live together in peace
7. Only 3.5% are republicans, same as NPR's audience
8. Still think Obama is the answer six months into his first term

My definition? Hmmm.

One who utterly/completely hates guns, hysterically reacts to anyone who legally owns one or has expressed a thought about purchasing one, desires all guns to be removed from the face of the earth, and is willing to beat you to death with a baseball bat in an attempt to convince you that guns are the root cause of violence..

The other types of folks, to me, are an educational opportunity to properly demonstrate that guns are not evil but just a tool, like a hammer, or car.

Anyone who wants more of our existing gun rights taken away.

An avid shooter or someone who loves gun's doesn't qualify as anti.

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To the contrary, there are many antis who like guns. They just think nobody ELSE can be trusted with guns.

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An anti is a person who through his reckless actions and pushy, obnoxious attitudes........alienates the general public against guns and causes more anti-gun laws to be enacted.

Antis come in all types

Some antis absolutely love guns, machine guns, all the latest in tactical gear, love gun video games etc. but believe only police/military should have them

Some antis are the hippy kind that think all guns of all kinds should be banned from everyone, even police/military (yes some people are that far from reality)

Some antis are gun owners, there are MANY gun owners here in NJ that think the misused permit system and AWB are OK, I've met gun owners here who support a ban on semi-automatics, etc. As long as no one touches their turkey gun they could care less what gets banned

Really, someone being an "anti" to a degree, or any degree, comes down to two simple, non gun related questions IMO:

Do you think an individual is responsible for their own safety, or that is a higher authority's job? (you will find many "antis" share this belief with many other things)

and 2

Is it better to have more freedom with more risk, or less freedom with less risk?

Google: "Fudd"... (see poster above's third example)

I've run across many kinds of antis.

One kind is afraid of guns because they don't trust themselves with them, much less anyone else. This is pretty common.

Then there's the kind that consider themselves to be strong enough to control the power of firearms, but don't believe that the common folk are "advanced" enough to be trusted with a gun. Many of these types consider themselves to be leaders of society.

Other social leader types believe that guns should be taken away from their opponents, folks that don't think like them, and other undesirables.

Finally there's the social and political revolutionaries that know that the revolution cannot succeed while their opposition is still armed. They usually have plans that they know will never pass muster among people that have the ability to resist. They'd never give up their own guns, of course, but they can always come up with another reason why your gun must go "for the good of society". They often have puppet organizations created for exactly this purpose.

Of the four types, one is fairly innocuous, one is cynical, one tends to be racist and caste-oriented, and one is pretty much evil.

-and that's my definition by example.

The 'anti' mentality is that guns are in control of situations, and when we see unfortunate examples like former NFL quarterback Steve McNair being shot four times and killed by his girlfriend, we shouldn’t see human beings who have gone off the right moral road because their consciences and self-discipline have not been properly developed. Instead, we should see guns in control of the situation, and then we should react against the guns. “Gun violence” should be called human violence, leaving us at least the dignity of being responsible for our own sins.

They also scoff at the premise that the Second Amendment is intended as a non-peaceful means whereby the ordinary citizen can put the brakes on tyrannical governmental abuses that violate God-given and Constitutional rights.

Anyone with negative views on guns and closed minded about the subject..... anyone else can be worked with if you have facts, solid evidence and reason....

Anyone who thinks the 2nd ammendment should be rewritten~politicians
Anyone who thinks the 2nd ammendments shall not be infringed excludes them~LEO
Anyone who thinks guns kill people~college professors
Anyone who thinks gun free zones are a good idea~corporate CEOs

In contrast to those irrational types, my brother-in-law and his wife are very liberal, but never abrasive about it, and seem tolerant of guns. I just showed him my SKS and LE #4 and 5, a week ago. You would not be able to tell that his father retired as a Bird Colonel in the Quartermasters long ago, but John said last fall "We'll be safer with a Rep. in the White House".

Their only problem is that being just outside Putney, VT, some rednecks across the NH line either practice or hunt in an area where their rounds have hit the row of trees above Janet while she walks on the small rural road below the hill on the VT side.
That was their only problem, and their neighbor 100+ yards away who fires many rounds on July the 4th and really scares one of their dogs.

Someone who is blindly and irrationally against private firearm ownership of any kind.

Someone who is against or questions the 2nd amendment.

So I was wondering, what is your definition of an anti?
Someone who sees me as someone who should be controlled and trained rather than as a citizen capable of making responsible choices.

Must someone hate guns to be anti or can they be a gun lover?
An anti is someone who thinks along the lines I've mentioned above - take away someone's guns, however, and you remove any possible way to defend your right to be free. The anti's are aware of this which is why they are always trying to take those rights away. The protesters at Tienanmen Square, Prague, Hungary 1956, East Berlin, Iran 2009, etc. were forced to throw rocks because the governments and the armies controlled all the guns. They didn't fare well. You can bet that if those crowds were armed, things would have turned out differently.

Can someone be an avid shooter and still an anti?
If you're opposed to me exercising my rights in any manner, then you are an anti. I don't care how many guns you own or how often you shoot.

Can someone be for certain guns and against others and be an anti?
I have the same response to this as I do the previous question. You oppose my owning or using anything - so long as I use it responsibly - and you get lumped into the 'anti' category.


A final thought: Buying and owning guns and ammunition is the most powerful political statement that people can make, bar none. Well, short of actually using the guns and ammo. It means that you're not just counting on the ballot box and the soap boxes. If they fail, then maybe you're willing to use other means - cartridge boxes - to protect their freedoms.

Especially in a 2009 context - if someone walks into a gun shop and says "I am buying this because I am afraid of Obama/Reid/Pelosi/whatever banning guns and ammo..." - there is no plainer way to say that person has absolutely no confidence in the government whatsoever to protect his or her rights. It's written on that person's forehead. And it's something I'm sure is driving the anti's insane.

I hope I got it all.

Edit: I've reworded this multiple times in just the last few minutes. Trying to see what makes the most sense here.

The anti's that I encounter a people that are just uncomfortable with guns and do not have a first hand perspective on the the concept of "firearm as tool"...or for that matter "weapon as tool".

Some of these folks actually believe that protecting one's self is appropriate be believe the funny business around "gun owners being more likely to kill themselves than an attacker".

They believe the news when they here the funny business around "the victim thought their gun was unloaded when it went off" as if this were a mechanical characteristic of a firearm...they go off spontaneously sometimes when they're being cleaned.

In my experience, I cannot think of anyone I have met that was morally opposed to firearms...I know they're out there...but I have only met those whom I consider ignorant or apathetic of the issues.

Some people just do not care one little bit about guns or RKGB and I suspect these people vote all kinds of different ways.

"Gun owners are more likely to kill themselves than an attacker" is equal to "Carpenters with a hammer are more likely to hit their own finger than pound in a nail."

Just doesn't happen very often.

Parker, who would have no fingers left...

You see where I am going with this... give me your definition.

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Doesn't have to be a rabid gun hater in my opinion.

Every day right here on THR we see people that consider themselves "pro gun" yet they say things that make me wonder.

They come out against open carry, or they say that there need to be lots of legal restrictions to buying a gun, as long as THEY can still buy one, etc.

Those are just as anti as a Brady, and I'd argue that they are worse since they damage our side, from the inside.

Definition of an "anti"?

Anyone that wants to restrict my firearms rights.