HAZMATT
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I am new to guns and would like some opinions on a 22lr plinking rifle. I have researched online and have narrowed my choices to either a mossberg 702 or a ruger 10/22. Can I get your views on these two guns.
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22lr plinkster query
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Ditch-Tiger
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Ruger 10/22 hands down.
Not only is it a better firearm, but you can customize it anyway you want if you so choose. From a heavy barrel target gun to a lightweight plinker, even turn it into an AK or AR variant!
Not only is it a better firearm, but you can customize it anyway you want if you so choose. From a heavy barrel target gun to a lightweight plinker, even turn it into an AK or AR variant!
HAZMATT
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opps, I should have spelled that query. My poor ability to spell at work.
HAZMATT
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I was also wondering about high capacity mags. Do either of these guns have 20+ round mags available. If so, where would I find them? And, are they reliablle mags?
The 10/22 has larger mags available. I believe the Butler Creek Steel Lips are the best common aftermarket mags. But I wouldn't know cause I live in a nanny state 
If you do have a problem with the Butler Creek mags, I'm sure a little maintenance can get it running good. Ruger factory 10 rounds are still the best mags though.
I have no clue about the Mossy. But 10/22 hands down for aftermarket and heaps of info on the internet for it.
Note: I did buy a Dragunov stock for mine but now its back to its original state with the nice wood stock and metal parts because Ruger doesn't make them as nice as they used too. I will buy another in the future though or two...
If you do have a problem with the Butler Creek mags, I'm sure a little maintenance can get it running good. Ruger factory 10 rounds are still the best mags though.
I have no clue about the Mossy. But 10/22 hands down for aftermarket and heaps of info on the internet for it.
Note: I did buy a Dragunov stock for mine but now its back to its original state with the nice wood stock and metal parts because Ruger doesn't make them as nice as they used too. I will buy another in the future though or two...
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+1 for the Ruger 10/22
General Geoff
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I was under the impression that rimfire guns were exempt from the "high cap" magazine ban in California..?
007BondJamesBond007
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10/22 hands down
wulfbyte
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The 702 is reasonably accurate, inexpensive, light weight, reliable, fun to shoot and simple to operate.
Magazines have been very difficult for me to find though and nothing over the stock 10 rounds. If there is any aftermarket for the 702, I haven't found it.
Another issue is that at least on my example, the screws that hold the action to the stock do not have any reinforcing on the action and as the metal is quite soft, have a tendency to strip out. I have fixed mine by installing threaded steel inserts, but obviously, this isn't a solution to last decades.
Essentially my 702 is a beater and trainer, not one I place a lot of faith or sentiment in.
Were I in the market for a 22 semi-auto, I would definitely go for a 10-22. The versatility of owner installable aftermarket accessories alone makes it worth getting.
Magazines have been very difficult for me to find though and nothing over the stock 10 rounds. If there is any aftermarket for the 702, I haven't found it.
Another issue is that at least on my example, the screws that hold the action to the stock do not have any reinforcing on the action and as the metal is quite soft, have a tendency to strip out. I have fixed mine by installing threaded steel inserts, but obviously, this isn't a solution to last decades.
Essentially my 702 is a beater and trainer, not one I place a lot of faith or sentiment in.
Were I in the market for a 22 semi-auto, I would definitely go for a 10-22. The versatility of owner installable aftermarket accessories alone makes it worth getting.
Ditch-Tiger
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WARNING!!!
Owning a Ruger 10/22 can be addictive...
Ruger 10/22 Deluxe W/Leupold 4x28mm
Ruger 10/22 SS W/Leupold 3.5-10x40AO, Fajin lam stock, butler creek bull/fluted bbl, Harris bi-pods, Tactical Solutions mag release, target hammer & sear kit, etc.
Ruger 10/22 SS W/Boyds' Baracuda stock, Tactical Solutions mag release & mount. (Still need the Tac Solutions blue bull/fluted bbl & red-dot optic)
Owning a Ruger 10/22 can be addictive...
Ruger 10/22 Deluxe W/Leupold 4x28mm
Ruger 10/22 SS W/Leupold 3.5-10x40AO, Fajin lam stock, butler creek bull/fluted bbl, Harris bi-pods, Tactical Solutions mag release, target hammer & sear kit, etc.
Ruger 10/22 SS W/Boyds' Baracuda stock, Tactical Solutions mag release & mount. (Still need the Tac Solutions blue bull/fluted bbl & red-dot optic)
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chris in va
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I only have one experience with the Plinkster to draw on.
Bought one from WalMart last year along with a couple extra mags. Took it straight to the range, discovered they forgot to take off the plastic trigger lock.
But I digress.
Loaded up a couple mags and discovered it wouldn't get through 2 shots without jamming. No worries, changed ammo and mags. Same thing. 4 types later, still no-go.
A kind individual at the range suggested we hose it down with CLP (Hoppes?) and it still jammed.
WalMart won't give refunds back on guns. We had to send it back to Mossberg, and a month later it still hadn't come back so I demanded to speak with the store manager. He reluctantly agreed I should get my $100 and that was the end of THAT fiasco.
Bought one from WalMart last year along with a couple extra mags. Took it straight to the range, discovered they forgot to take off the plastic trigger lock.
But I digress.Loaded up a couple mags and discovered it wouldn't get through 2 shots without jamming. No worries, changed ammo and mags. Same thing. 4 types later, still no-go.
A kind individual at the range suggested we hose it down with CLP (Hoppes?) and it still jammed.
WalMart won't give refunds back on guns. We had to send it back to Mossberg, and a month later it still hadn't come back so I demanded to speak with the store manager. He reluctantly agreed I should get my $100 and that was the end of THAT fiasco.
rtn
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Go with the Ruger. Many aftermarket parts/upgrades available for your mods.
Then again, I'd get a CZ-452 bolt action....
Then again, I'd get a CZ-452 bolt action....
I regretted getting a 10/22. It really isn't a good gun from the box. People love them, AFTER they've put hundreds of dollars into them, on top of the purchase price. I.e., if you replace the barrel, stock and trigger, you can end up with a pretty decent gun...
I sold mine instead. There are better and more amusing .22 rifles out there for the money, than a 10/22 with some mediocre aftermarket parts added. For $500, consider a Marlin 39A lever action, or for under $400, a CZ452 bolt action.
Definitely look at the Marlin 795, similar configuration and price to the Plinkster, but a very accurate, American-made rifle.
Personally, I like the Marlin 60's tube magazine better. Easier to load. That's the low-end .22 semiauto I ended up keeping. It's as accurate as I ever need (shoots as well as some modified 10/22s that cost several times as much).
I sold mine instead. There are better and more amusing .22 rifles out there for the money, than a 10/22 with some mediocre aftermarket parts added. For $500, consider a Marlin 39A lever action, or for under $400, a CZ452 bolt action.
Definitely look at the Marlin 795, similar configuration and price to the Plinkster, but a very accurate, American-made rifle.
Personally, I like the Marlin 60's tube magazine better. Easier to load. That's the low-end .22 semiauto I ended up keeping. It's as accurate as I ever need (shoots as well as some modified 10/22s that cost several times as much).
General Geoff
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I have a 10/22, which admittedly is not stock, but I've spent about $150 on aftermarket parts.
Tech-Sights aperture iron sights: $60
Turner Saddlery 1907 Sling: $50
Three extra 10 round magazines: $40
I'd have put money toward aperture style sights on any other .22 rifle that doesn't come with them stock; same with the sling. So I don't really think the 10/22 sticks out in my mind as a rifle that needed excessive modification to be fun..
Tech-Sights aperture iron sights: $60
Turner Saddlery 1907 Sling: $50
Three extra 10 round magazines: $40
I'd have put money toward aperture style sights on any other .22 rifle that doesn't come with them stock; same with the sling. So I don't really think the 10/22 sticks out in my mind as a rifle that needed excessive modification to be fun..
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When I have the untendable urge to plink 22's til I'm plunked out, I just load up my Calico M100 100 round mags, take along my Taurus 94 9-shot DA revolver with a handful of speedloaders, an extra bulk pack or two, and just have at it.
Just a suggestion.
I also have one of those Ciener 22 conversion kits for my AR's, but that's mostly for style over substance in my view.
Just a suggestion.
I also have one of those Ciener 22 conversion kits for my AR's, but that's mostly for style over substance in my view.
bigalexe
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Im going to second this debate by the original OP and heres how i see it
Mossberg 702
-Reasonably Accurate
-Reasonably Reliable
-Cheap, Cheap, Cheap
-Limited to no aftermarket from what I've seen
Ruger 10/22
-Reasonably Accurate
-Reasonably Reliable
-Moderate Pricing
-Aftermarket that is utterly massive
Mossberg 702
-Reasonably Accurate
-Reasonably Reliable
-Cheap, Cheap, Cheap
-Limited to no aftermarket from what I've seen
Ruger 10/22
-Reasonably Accurate
-Reasonably Reliable
-Moderate Pricing
-Aftermarket that is utterly massive
HAZMATT;
I'll also throw my .02 worth of opinion to the Ruger. I'm sorry one person here apparantly got a lemon, but in a mass-productin situation that's going to happen. The thing to consider is that the Ruger 10/22 didn't get to the position it's in in the marketplace by being either a poor firearm or delivering a poor cost/value factor. In other words, the odds are way on your side to purchase a relatively inexpensive plinker that delivers what you want it to.
Besides, with the simply incredible aftermarket out there for it, you can work on it yourself. It's fun to do, and can be done at your own rate for both time and money. Nothing like learning your gun from the inside out if you're so inclined. There's even video's available to show you how it's done.
900F
I'll also throw my .02 worth of opinion to the Ruger. I'm sorry one person here apparantly got a lemon, but in a mass-productin situation that's going to happen. The thing to consider is that the Ruger 10/22 didn't get to the position it's in in the marketplace by being either a poor firearm or delivering a poor cost/value factor. In other words, the odds are way on your side to purchase a relatively inexpensive plinker that delivers what you want it to.
Besides, with the simply incredible aftermarket out there for it, you can work on it yourself. It's fun to do, and can be done at your own rate for both time and money. Nothing like learning your gun from the inside out if you're so inclined. There's even video's available to show you how it's done.
900F
Publius1688
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Get the 10/22, and take your time fixing it up the way you want to. It will cost money, though--I was a little disappointed in the way mine shot straight out of the box.
RevolvingGarbage
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I bought a 702 Plinkster as my first firearm. It shoots straight and it has digested every single type of .22 ammo ive put through it. Ive atleast the cost of the gun in ammo through it, with maybe 10 misfeeds and jams in the lot. Ive read that the QC on the plinkster is hit or miss, with reports of total lemons (read above) and guns like mine which run as good as a .22 semi can run.
If you have the extra cash, i cant think of any reason not to get the 10/22, i just thought id share my experience with the alternative.
If you have the extra cash, i cant think of any reason not to get the 10/22, i just thought id share my experience with the alternative.
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