'61 Navy Info

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I'm thinking about acquiring a '61 Navy in .36 cal. and would like to
get the civilian model as it doesn't seem to have the shoulder stock
cutouts and extra screws in the frame. Not sure if I'm correct in this
assumption and would appreciate any advice.
Is the Uberti the only one available?
Where is the best place to get one? The prices seem to vary somewhat.
Am trying to wean myself away from Dixie Gun Works after a couple
of dodgy experiences and in the process have found an excellent
muzzleloading-only gun shop (Cain's Outdoor) in Williamstown, WV.
Also, (can I mention this here?) if any of you have one for sale or
trade, let me know.
Any discussion, comments or criticisms of this model and your
experiences with it would be most welcome.
Thank you all for maintaining a civil and helpful forum.
PS: I've just switched from Pyrodex to Goex and my accuracy in
my '51 Navy has improved at 30 ft. and 200 ft. Also, clean up is
easier. Is this anyone else's experience?
PPS: I love Ballistol!
 
yep,real Goex black is less fouling ,and easier to clean that the subs.The only reason I can see to use subs at all is that black powder is hard to come by in some localities,and even then Pyrodex is at the bottom of my list.I had a pistol flask so badly corroded by that stuff,it had to be thrown away. It's extremely hygroscopic,and smells like burnt plastic,in the unlikely event that you are actually able to get it to ignite.Triple Seven on the other hand is slightly HOTTER than black powder,burns extremely clean,and clean up is easy,with plain hot water.If I absolutely couldn't get the real stuff,Triple Seven is a fine substitute.
 
I don't know what price range you're talking, but if you want a really nice 1861 .36 revolver, check out the 3rd Generation Signature Series Colts. I don't know if the 1861s were made during the 2nd Generation period, but if they were, that'd be a great choice also.
 
<<"I don't know if the 1861s were made during the 2nd Generation period">>

There were 3,166 2nd Generation 1861 Colt Navys made from 9/80 to 10/81 according to the following website. https://www.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/MBPHistoryOfColtBlack.pdf

They are fairly rare and usually command a higher price than the 1851 Navys or 1860 Armys, usually going for $600 or more. The 1851 Navys are fairly common and can be found for less than $500 if you look around online. Other than the special edition or cased models, the 1861 Navys are probably priced higher than other 2nd Generation Colts. But they sure are pretty.
 
+1 on looking for a used 2nd or 3rd gen Colt. 61's that have been used show up on gunbroker and can be bought for a reasonable some. I have a 51 and 61 2nd gen, both bought as shooters and about $400 each. That's more than an Italian but the quality is much better. I have seen cased 61's go for around $600-700. You can part out the case and accessories for about 300+ if they are Colt.
 
'61 Navies have been made by ASM, Euroarms, Colt (2nd Gen & Sig Series), Uberti & Pietta. Cimarron and Buffalo Arms currently lists both Civilian and Military models in Blue/Black and Charcoal Blue finishes. Pietta only makes the Military model cut for the shoulder stock IINM both in Blue/CCH and the Josie Wales antique finish (Traditions). CVA also sold '61s that were made by ASM.

The 2nd Gens, Sig Series and Ubertis all have the correct 7 1/2 inch barrel. The Piettas have an 8" barrel.

'61 Navies from all the manufacturers pop up on the gun auction sites all the time; sometimes with decent prices.

I've got a 3 2nd Gens, pair of Ubertis, and a Pietta. Still looking to pair up the Pietta if one comes around for a decent price (the one I have I paid less than $150 for unfired and NIB except for a small scratch on the barrel).
 
I got Uberti's military model (stock cuts, screws, steel backstrap) from Midway about 6 yrs ago for $195. I had prior experience with a 2nd gen. Colt 1851 and original '51 and '60.

I have been very pleased with the Uberti's quality and finish. I would rate it with the 2nd gen. Colt. NONE of the replicas are as well made as the originals. If you ever take a nice original apart that is immediately obvious. But the Uberti shot right to the sights which most percussion revolvers do not do. I was sufficiently satisfied with the workmanship that I later got their Walker and 3rd Model Dragoon.

That 1861 is one elegant little gun.
 
Thanks for the input. This will save me a lot of research time. Looks like it's going to be
the Uberti from Buffalo Arms @ $321. They also have one for $275 but they don't
say who makes it.
Have any of you ever dealt with Buffalo Arms? Was it a comfortable transaction?
Once again, Thank You!
 
Buffalo Arms is a reputable company.
AdmiralB posted that he bought 6 Cimmarons from them and that they were all keepers.
It's always a good idea to check on a company's return policy before making a purchase.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=465782&highlight=buffalo+arms

2 people did have problems with guns that were bought from them:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349449&highlight=buffalo+arms

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371456&highlight=buffalo+arms



Thread "Where the hell is Buffalo Arms?":

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=467908&highlight=buffalo+arms
 
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