Please help identify this rifle.

Remington made U.S. Model 1917 Enfield somebody did a whack job on.

The stock as been cut off front & rear, recoil pad added, and the rear receiver sight wings have been ground off. Also drilled & tapped for Weaver scope mounts.

Were it all still original military condition, I'd say several hundred dollars.

After getting whacked, it's now just a shooter with no collector value..
You might get $250 out of it.

PS: The one picture with the bolt open appears to show daylight down through the box magazine.

It appears to be missing the floor-plate, spring, and follower.

Lets devalue it another $50 bucks at least, as it will cost you that or more to replace the missing parts.

rc

Some old model of Remington? Coming out from under the rear scope mount, it looks like a "TON" and the safety is in the right place.

Edit: Slow on the draw with less info. I fail at identification. lol

To bad, bubba strikes again

yeah 1917 enfield made by remington for the U.S. This is the model used by sergeant murphy when he kicked a$$ over in france. Quite a few made it to Britian during the lend lease act where some red paint was painted on the butt of the rifle to signify it shot 30 06. In original military garb, probably worth a lot more. But since it has been cut up, I wouldn't pay more than 200 for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1917_Enfield

dang rcmodel, beat me to it

sergeant murphy

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The horse?
Or do you mean Alvin York?

Wow...that is really too bad. But the damage is done. You should continue to "sporterize" it up to more current standards and you'll have a pretty decent rifle. With the rear sight whacked off and the scope mounts drilled, you needn't bother with trying to return it to original. Sometimes, if Bubba didn't mess up the metal, you can restock it and get it back to original specifications.

It is, regardless of what you do to it, from this point forward, worth only its intrinsic value as a firearm...no collector or historical value at all.

Iam no expert but I do know that the US made a riflle called a pattern 14 that was in 303 british that is very similar looking. My advive is have a competent smith look at it and be safe before you shoot.

If it was still original the bidding would start at about $500 and go up. After the "wack job", like RC says, the value is $250 on down. It's most certainly a .30-06, but bullturkey is also right. The Brits bought pert-near the exact same rifle, made in the USA, chambered in .303 British.

The horse?
Or do you mean Alvin York?

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I am glad you caught that, I wouldn't have ever even noticed . haha, yes ALVIN YORK not seargent murphy, I got him and Audie Murphy mixed up.

... burphhhh... I feel faint....

It's a 30-06, the next to last picture shows the US Ordnance Department Flaming Cannonball stamp. So unless someone really bubba'd it and converted it to 303, its a 30-06. If it's bubba'd in the UK is it called Tommy'd or Limey'd?

If it's bubba'd in the UK is it called Tommy'd or Limey'd?

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My guess is they'd call it "Yank'd".

AFA the rifle, looks pretty rough. I'm sure it'll shoot, make little holes in things, and kill animals, but I personally wouldn't give very much for it. And I'll buy anything.

During the 1920s and 1930s Remington made commercial versions of this rifle called the Model 30 and 30S (deluxe). The "dog leg" bolt handle and side mounted safety are quick tip-offs in spotting these.

Here is a Model 30 Carbine in '06 (note the receiver sight as they were not drilled for mounts back then) and a 30S that is a custom rebuild. The 1917 and later Model 30 use a true magnum length action so if you want to make a 375 H&H or some other 3.6" cartridge it can accommodate it.

1974, a 14 year old boy, a primo M1917, a Weaver 10X scope, a copy of Williams "Converting Military Arms", an old bench mounted grinder, and Old Man Murphy watching on in horror as the ears glowed red under the grinding wheel.

Im soooo ashamed

It's a P17 Enfield made by Remington - one of the desirable ones. These guns can be rebarreled to make excellent heavy caliber rifles but they are a bit heavy in carry weight for smaller calibers. Some of the P17 rifles actually had the same bore size as the 303 (0.311 inch bore instead of the correct 0.308 bore for US 30 caliber). Theoretically this would reduce accuracy - who knows what happens in practice.

A properly converted Remington P17 can handle just about any cartridge you can load into it.

The rear sight "ears" have been taken off the rifle. This is a heck of a job - the metal is extremely hard.

The rear sight "ears" have been taken off the rifle. This is a heck of a job - the metal is extremely hard.

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Nothing a 14 year old with an old bench mounted grinder cant handle.:banghead:

1974, a 14 year old boy, a primo M1917, a Weaver 10X scope, a copy of Williams "Converting Military Arms", an old bench mounted grinder, and Old Man Murphy watching on in horror as the ears glowed red under the grinding wheel.

Im soooo ashamed

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That one truly had me rolling!

I can top that. Around 1967 in the garage of my gandparents' home I found a brand new 1917 still in the original shipping carton that had never even had the bolt inserted into the action. It had been sent to my late grandfather during WW II when he was a Civil Defense officer. He didn't feel the need to carry a rifle as he performed his duties so there it remained.

I stupidly swapped it to a buddy for a Mauser that had been sporterized. He still has it. He cut down the stock but otherwise it's still GI. He hunts deer with it every year.

"Bubba" should be a Marvel Comics villian.

Nice man cave.

Does anobody make a Dremel tool with an accessory rail. I want to mount a laser/light combo to mine I'l call it the Too Cool Tactical Dremel Tool. Bubbas of the world unite!

Wow! This is the second post I have seen on the M1917 in less than week. (Another site had a question asking what the heck this was...AIMSurplus has some for sell right now.)

This came from CMP. Rack grade supposedly. $400. I thought I would get a Eddystone, but this is a Winchester!!



There were more M1917s made during WWI than 1903 Springfields. Though you will get some who dispute it, and claim Sgt. York swapped his M1917 for a 1903 Springfield, most historians say York used a M1917 in heroic actions in France.

Mine is very accurate and I would never classify it as Rack Grade.

I've seen these "sporterized" versions at gunshows for $250-350 or so, but the seller will usually take less.

These were the original "po' boy" deer rifles. My Dad bought one in 1957 at the Bon Marche in Seattle WA for 29.95 OTD. Try toting that thing around the Cascade mountains a while and you'll see why a lot of folks changed them from their original configuration.
Funny how all the "Bubba bashers" fail to realize that if nobody ever changed an old milspec gun from original their prized original pieces would be worth considerably less.

That rifle has a ways to go to be done IMO. There's a lot of wood to be removed. Any type of customization on anything, cars, motorcycles, guns, etc is always such a matter of personal taste. My Dads gun did not shoot any better or worse for removing the forestocks and some wood from the rear. It was always deer hunting accurate.

I'm thinking somewhere around 200-250. If I was specifically in the market for a 1917 Enfield that I wanted to sporterize, that would be a good start on one and I might be inclined to pay a little more. Otherwise, the 1917 is basically a portable proof barrel with above average accuracy. I've heard others opine that they are just about indestructable. The de-horning of the ears actually looks very well done to me. It most certainly wasn't done with a Dremel tool.