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OK so i got a remington 700 sps in .243 winchester for last christmas. i've been procrastinating and i have only bought the scope bases for it. MY intentions were to hunt with this rifle and some target shooting but i bought a bow to hunt with so the rifle has been on the back burner. My dad said he wants to go hunting to me yesterday and has a bad shoulder so he is gonna shoot my rifle. I need to know what i need as far as scope ammo cleaning kits bipod you name it what do i need to get it sighted in and ready by saturday. Were i hunt i will shoot anywhere from 50-300yrds.

Thanks
 
What, you haven't sighted it in yet? Jeez...

Go forth and buy a decent scope. Got $200? Go pick up a Bushnell 3200 3-9x40 and rings at your local sporting goods store.

Get a cleaning kit from the store while you're there, nothing fancy. You're going to need a steady setup to rest it on at the range table. Sandbags, jackets, whatever, you just need a rest of some type.

Have the store laser boresite it when you buy the scope (most provide it for free). If not, pull the bolt and look through the bore at a target and adjust the scope till it's on the same target. This boresights it.

Go sight it in, starting out at shorter ranges if necessary. The boresight is to get it on paper, the live fire will be the the final adjustments Fire some more to make sure you have a good zero. You'll want to zero it for mean point blank range, google it to find out, or wait for someone to come buy here and tell you what that is for .243.

You'll have to hope you can find .243 ammo on the shelf. Buy a few different brands, a couple boxes each and maybe you'll find something that shoots the best, but any standard softpoint suitable for hunting should give you good enough groups.

Clean it before hitting the range, don't bother with the barrel break in BS.


How to sight in:
http://www.vortexoptics.com/content/sighting_in_your_riflescope_part1

http://www.vortexoptics.com/content/sighting_in_your_riflescope_part2
 
OK thanks and i allready have 2 boxes of remington express core-lokt 100grains. and 1 box of winchester super xcxp2 100 grains
 
OK so i got a remington 700 sps in .243 winchester for last christmas. i've been procrastinating and i have only bought the scope bases for it.

YoungandDumb,

I think I figured out your problem. :D

All joking aside, if you start now you will be ready to hunt with it next year. The advice Avenger29 gave you is excellent, but it all takes time.

Procrastination is a wonderful thing to grow out of. ;)
 
You don't need a bi-pod on a deer rifle.

And you don't need more then a 3x-9x-40mm scope, at most.

Forget the bi-pod and Tackycool target scopes with knobs that twist & dials that twiddle.
You don't need that stuff on a deer rifle to kill a deer.

Any deer of average intelligence will be in the next county while you are still fooling around with it.

rc
 
If you belong to a hunting club with a shooting range, have a public range within reasonable distance, there will be other shooters willing to help you and will probably have the shooting rests and whatever else you need to get started. Just take your rifle, ammo, good ear protection and you're basically good to go. And don't forget to take your dad along too.
P.S. Some clubs sponsor sighting-in days for non members, and you might call your local game office or officer. They can usually direct you to a shooting range where you can get help.
 
Just thought I would add that Nikon makes a good scope too for a decent price. Prostaff and the Buckmaster work well.
 
i allready have 2 boxes of remington express core-lokt 100grains. and 1 box of winchester super xcxp2 100 grains

Good, that should be plenty to sight in the new scope and for the hunt. All you really need is a scope and a cleaning kit, and $300 will buy fine examples of both. $200-$250 on a 3x9 Leupold or Nikon and the rest on a good cleaning kit. If it were me, I'd sniff around the sporting good stores in search of a deal on a Leupold Rifleman or VX-I, a Nikon Prostaff or Buckmasters. Keep your other eye out looking at the cleaning kits and maybe even a rifle case to tote that gun to deer camp and back.

Good luck!
 
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Sorry the Columns don't line up but if you'll look at the top line it says what each column is and follow it across.
Max Point blank Range is 319 yards with a 4" kill zone.. that is the bullet will never be higher than 4" nor lower than 4" with a Zero at 100 yds of +3.3" This will put you with a dead on zero of 272 yds. This will be very close to true if your bullet has a B.C. of .356 G1 and a velocity of 3000 FPS.
In other words.. with this sight in you should be able to shoot from 0 to 319 yard with out worrying about hold over or hold under....point and shoot out to 319 yards. This is all in theory!

Jimmy K



Trajectory
Input Data
Manufacturer: Winchester Description: Super-X® Power-Point®
Caliber: 0.243 in Weight: 100.0 gr
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.356 G1

Muzzle Velocity: 3000.0 ft/s Distance to Chronograph: 10.0 in

Sight Height: 1.50 in Sight Offset: 0.00 in
Zero Height: 0.00 in Zero Offset: 0.00 in
Windage: 0.000 MOA Elevation: 0.000 MOA
Line Of Sight Angle: 0.0 deg Cant Angle: 0.0 deg

Wind Speed: 10.0 mph Wind Angle: 90.0 deg
Target Speed: 10.0 mph Target Angle: 90.0 deg

Temperature: 59.0 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
Humidity: 0.0 lb/ft³ Altitude: 0.0 ft

Vital Zone Radius: 4.0 in

Std. Atmosphere at Altitude: Yes Pressure is Corrected: Yes
Zero at Max. Point Blank Range: Yes Target Relative Drops: Yes
Mark Sound Barrier Crossing: No Include Extra Rows: No
Column 1 Units: 4.00 in Column 2 Units: 1.00 in
Round Output to Whole Numbers: No
Output Data
Elevation: 6.524 MOA Windage: 0.000 MOA

Atmospheric Density: 0.07647 lb/ft³ Speed of Sound: 1116.5 ft/s

Maximum PBR: 319 yd Maximum PBR Zero: 272 yd
Range of Maximum Height: 153 yd Energy at Maximum PBR: 1068.4 ft•lbs

Sectional Density: 0.242 lb/in²
Calculated Table
Range Drop Drop Windage Windage Velocity Mach Energy Time Lead Lead
(yd) (Col 1) (in) (Col 1) (in) (ft/s) (none) (ft•lbs) (s) (Col 1) (in)
0 -0.4 -1.5 0.0 0.0 3000.8 2.688 1999.1 0.000 0.0 0.0
25 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.1 2931.8 2.626 1908.3 0.025 1.1 4.5
50 0.4 1.4 0.1 0.2 2864.0 2.565 1821.0 0.051 2.3 9.0
75 0.6 2.5 0.1 0.5 2797.2 2.505 1737.0 0.078 3.4 13.7
100 0.8 3.3 0.2 0.8 2731.4 2.446 1656.3 0.105 4.6 18.4
125 0.9 3.8 0.3 1.3 2666.6 2.388 1578.6 0.133 5.8 23.3
150 1.0 4.0 0.5 2.0 2602.7 2.331 1503.9 0.161 7.1 28.3
175 1.0 3.8 0.7 2.7 2539.7 2.275 1432.0 0.190 8.4 33.5
200 0.8 3.4 0.9 3.6 2477.6 2.219 1362.8 0.220 9.7 38.7
225 0.6 2.6 1.1 4.5 2416.4 2.164 1296.3 0.251 11.0 44.1
250 0.3 1.4 1.4 5.7 2356.0 2.110 1232.3 0.282 12.4 49.7
275 -0.1 -0.2 1.7 7.0 2296.5 2.057 1170.9 0.314 13.8 55.3
300 -0.6 -2.2 2.1 8.4 2237.8 2.004 1111.8 0.348 15.3 61.2
325 -1.2 -4.6 2.5 10.0 2179.9 1.953 1055.0 0.382 16.8 67.1
350 -1.9 -7.5 2.9 11.7 2122.9 1.901 1000.5 0.416 18.3 73.3
375 -2.7 -10.9 3.4 13.6 2066.7 1.851 948.3 0.452 19.9 79.6
400 -3.7 -14.8 3.9 15.7 2011.4 1.802 898.2 0.489 21.5 86.1
425 -4.8 -19.2 4.5 17.9 1957.0 1.753 850.3 0.527 23.2 92.7
450 -6.0 -24.1 5.1 20.4 1903.5 1.705 804.4 0.566 24.9 99.5
475 -7.4 -29.7 5.8 23.0 1851.0 1.658 760.6 0.606 26.6 106.6
500 -9.0 -35.9 6.5 25.8 1799.4 1.612 718.8 0.647 28.5 113.8
 
Avenger29 has you covered. I have the Bushnell 3200 3-9x40 on my mini-14 and really like it. A bit of zeroing advice: After doing the boresight, assuming you're at an outdoor range, start right off at the 100 yd range and pick a rock or some other object down range above or on either side of your target. Tell your father to focus on it when you shoot. It's easier to determine where your 1st shot goes that way. After you've made the necessary scope correction, fire 3 round groups at the target to fine tune your zero.
 
Thanks guys i think i'm gonna go with the bushnell 3200

Umm and is there anything else i need to know as far as long term stuff for my gun?

Thanks
 
Keep it lightly oiled. I prefer CLP, and unless you get your gun really dirty its all you will ever need for cleaning, lubricating and protecting, hence the name. I clean my guns after each hunt or shoot. Boresnakes are nice but not necessary but with a boresnake, a can of clp and an old tshirt/rag, you can easily keep your gun in top notch shape. Thats probably about the price of a cheap cleaning kit, but the snake will just work for your .243.
 
I've had a 2x7 Leupold on my .243 since 1981, and it's worked plenty good for deer and coyotes. Well, prairie dogs, too, for that matter.

For round numbers, 2" high at 100 yards is gonna be roughly dead on at 200 and a couple of inches low at 250. Close enough for deer hunting, anyway. Figure around six inches of drop at 300, give or take a little.

Forget bipods and all that sort of fooforaw.

Cleaning kit? Even a break-down portable kit beats none at all. I'd get a stainless rod and a couple of tips, patches, Hoppe's #9 and a small can of Remington spray-can oil.
 
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