MMA Fighter talks right to carry

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The video is a little older but Frank Mir won his fight last night against a Cheick Kongo. I know there will be some eye rolling but this is a top fighter in a popular sport (18-34 demo) discussing why we need to exercise our right to bear arms. It's too bad no one in the NFL or MLB can talk about responsible firearms ownership.

http://www.spike.com/video/frank-mir-talks-guns/3001750
 
Good to know that Frank is so pro RKBA.

Frank is a really cool nice guy too. I've met him a few times, a kid I trained fought his student and some of my friends were at his training camp helping him out for his last fight. He is really personable and down to earth.

BTW I was real impressed that he dropped Kongo with a punch. His striking has really come along way. He has also bulked up considerably in preparation for a rubber match with Lesnar.
 
Some of his 'training methods' would be scary with live firearms and ammo, but I can see his points. I'd want to do them with say airsoft though for safety reasons.
 
Some of his 'training methods' would be scary with live firearms and ammo, but I can see his points. I'd want to do them with say airsoft though for safety reasons.
I was assuming that he was not doing the draw training where his friends knock him about with a loaded firearm.
 
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Great job, Frank. Good to see such an ambassador doing so well :) Former champ (twice) and coming up again - lots of people know him!

Dope
 
I've seen this before great interview and a very impressive win last night.(even though Diego lost:( ) There's actually alot of pro-gun MMA fighters. Brock Lesnar is an avid hunter although I wouldn't know if he trains with handguns for self defense like Mir does.
 
I've seen this before great interview and a very impressive win last night.(even though Diego lost:( ) There's actually alot of pro-gun MMA fighters. Brock Lesnar is an avid hunter although I wouldn't know if he trains with handguns for self defense like Mir does.
I love mma but I wish more athletes from other sports would come out pro-gun. Sports figures have an amazing influence over the population.

Also, I am a BJ Penn for but I actually felt bad for Diego...he had nothing for him.
 
ESPN did an article a few years back about pro-athletes owning guns and the article tries to be balanced.

December 15, 2006, 8:19 AM ET
Athletes and Guns

Houston Astros outfielder Luke Scott slammed an ammo clip into his .45-caliber Glock handgun, assumed the ready position and fired off 10 successive shots in 2.5 seconds, causing shell casings to fly in every direction. The thundering noise of gunshots filled the air and echoed through the trees, briefly disrupting the silence that surrounded his makeshift shooting range on a strip of land just a mile or so from the house he grew up in DeLeon Springs, Fla.

"That's a clip," Scott said matter-of-factly as he looked up, emptied the cartridge from his handgun and slid the weapon into his front pocket.

Scott proceeded to walk up to the target that was blowing in the breeze 10 feet away, the ideal distance for practicing self-defense maneuvers, and pointed to the form of a man that was outlined on the target. With a bull's-eye on its chest to highlight the kill zone, Scott began to count the bullet holes that were on target: "There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine ..." He stopped to chuckle then said, "That's a poor soul right there.

An athlete gets paid a lot of money," he said. "And someone who is after that, a thief, a mugger or someone who steals from people, they are taking a chance with the law that if they get caught, they are going to jail or face some other problem."
With a broad smile, he added, "In my case, you are going to get shot."

Scott, who was called up from the minors in July, batted .336 with 10 home runs in an impressive rookie season with the Astros. He is also one of the many athletes who carry a gun.

"How do you combat a man with a firearm?" Scott asked. "You don't combat him with a golf club, baseball bat or a knife. You combat him with another firearm."

Scott has a license to carry a concealed weapon and claims he carries his gun with him almost everywhere, always wanting to be prepared.

"I'll put this like that…" Scott said. He picked his gun up off the table, placed it in his back pocket and made sure his shirt wasn't tucked into his pants, covering up the gun. He did a quick spin with his arms in the air and said, "You can't see it."

Scott has never been in trouble with the law, but the list of professional athletes who either have been charged or arrested for gun-related crimes is long. The combination of athletes and guns increasingly has become a volatile mixture.

Many incidents indicate that athletes rely on firearms for self-protection or as a means to resolve an altercation. But estimates on how many professional athletes carry guns, legally or illegally, vary. By Scott's estimation, as many as 20 percent of Major League Baseball players carry concealed weapons, and more than 50 percent own some type of gun.

Roger Renrick is familiar with the prevalence of guns among professional athletes. A former Boston police officer, Renrick is now a bodyguard who has worked for Paul Pierce, Antoine Walker and Jalen Rose. Renrick describes gun ownership among NBA players as "very common."
"I would probably say close to 60 percent," he said.

New England Patriots wide receiver Jabar Gaffney, a gun owner himself, said he thinks 90 percent of NFL players have firearms.

"Lots of guys I know have weapons either in their house or, in places where you can carry it, they have a permit to carry it," Gaffney said.

Some athletes own guns for hunting, but most athletes who carry guns do so for self-protection.

Scott recounted a time when he was thankful he was prepared, a late night when he was at a gas station in Texas.

"Last year, we had a lot of people come in from New Orleans to Houston shortly after Hurrican Katrina. There were a lot of people walking the streets. I knew my surroundings. I wasn't in that good of a part of town and it was 1 o'clock in the morning," Scott said. "I was by myself and no one was around. I just took my gun and put it right there."

Scott lifted his shirt to reveal his handgun tucked down the front of his pants, the handle slightly visible.

"I saw this guy about 30 feet away. I'm just watching him, minding my own business and, as he approached me, I said, 'Can I help you with something?' Just like that."

Reenacting the incident, Scott demonstrated how he lifted his shirt to reveal his Glock.

"I could see he had something in his hand behind him, and he stopped, and his eyes got real big and he started stuttering, so you know he's up to no good."

Scott raised his arms in mock surrender and continued: "He goes 'I ain't gonna lie man, I ain't gonna lie. All I want is a dollar. I'm gonna go in and buy a beer. I'm not gonna buy food. I'm not gonna buy water. I ain't begging for money for that. I am gonna buy alcohol with it.' Just straight up."

Scott laughed.

"And I looked at him. I said, 'You stay right there.' And I just watched him and I reached in my car to the center console, grabbed a dollar, put it right on the hood and said, 'Go ahead.' And the whole time my hand was on my gun. I didn't fire a shot, didn't even point it at him."

Another armed athlete is former NFL player Jay Williams.

"I carry a gun every day of my life. When I get up in the morning and get dressed it goes on my hip, and when I go to bed at night it comes off my hip," said Williams, who played 10 years in the NFL, most recently with the Miami Dolphins in 2004. "I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."

Williams is now a gun dealer, selling weapons mostly at gun shows and over the Internet. He says some clients are athletes.

As the son of a police officer from Washington, D.C., Williams grew up around firearms. He now belongs to a gun club in North Carolina, where he practices his shooting once a week.

"Athletes are not carrying a gun just to carry a gun and to say, 'Yeah, I carry a gun,'" Williams said. "They are carrying guns to protect and defend themselves."

Williams maintains that the dangers faced by professional athletes are real.

"A lot of criminals, they will look at you like, 'Shoot, let's follow him home. Let's see where he lives. Let's see if we can get him for his jewelry, his watch, his car.' You never know what is out there," Williams said.

As high-profile figures in society, many athletes claim they are targets, citing their wealth and prominence as reasons to be wary.

"Guys are jealous of your stature in life, the fact that you are playing ball, the fact that you are making all this money. The fact that when you go to a club or restaurant, young ladies might flock to you," Williams said. "You might have a disgruntled fan who is pissed off how the team is playing. And maybe he has something to say to you about it. Now, odds are he is not going to come at you in a violent way, but you never know."

Most athletes would agree.

"To the criminal element, anyone with money and fame is a target," Scott said.

"Away from football we try to be regular people, go out and have a good time," Gaffney said. "But eyes are always on us and sometimes people want what you have and they try to get it."

In September 2000, the Boston Celtics' Paul Pierce survived a brutal multiple stabbing at a Boston nightclub. Pierce is now licensed to carry a concealed weapon, but leaves his gun at home and hires a bodyguard when he goes out. Still, Pierce considers himself a target.

"Because I'm recognized from TV, people want what I have," Pierce said. "You have to be careful because people out there in the world are very envious of your life."

But some players don't agree that an athlete's high profile makes them a target in society.

"I don't know what you need a gun for in the NBA," former Utah Jazz star Karl Malone said in disbelief. "What are you doing that you want a gun? Who have you pissed off that you need a gun?" Malone's eyes grew bigger and he shrugged his shoulders, apparently confused at the reasoning behind athletes' fear of being attacked.

Malone is hardly anti-gun. An avid hunter, Malone even has been a spokesman for the National Rifle Association. But he rejects the argument that athletes need guns for protection.

"I think it's just a smoke screen, just an easy reason to say you want a gun," Malone said.

While Malone supports the constitutional right to bear arms, he said he is skeptical of the average athlete's mentality when it comes to firearms.

"Everybody sticks their chest out now when they have a firearm on them," Malone said, mocking the thought process of the common athlete. "'I come up from the hard part of the streets, the mean streets, and I need my gun and all of that?' Come on, please, enough of that already. We're tired of that."

Malone said he wants athletes to realize the dangerous nature of guns.

"Now why do these guys carry guns? Is that the 'cool' thing to do? Well 'cool' gets you dead!" Malone said.

"I know there is probably somebody out there who's carrying a gun because it makes him feel like more of a man," Williams said truthfully. "You don't carry a gun just to make you feel like you are big-time. That's the wrong reason to carry."

For athletes who claim they need a gun for protection, Malone has a suggestion: stop hanging out in places of risk.

"Three a.m.? My goodness gracious, what were you doing out at 3 o'clock in the morning? Who were you with? Where were you at? Do you need a gun to protect you or do you need a babysitter to get you where you need to be all the time so that you don't get in any trouble?" Malone said.

Malone said he thinks the problems stem from the people athletes sometimes keep as company, and the places they spend their free time.

"You can enjoy yourself in nice places, but we're talking about gun stuff," he said. "We need to talk more about where we are going, what we are doing, and who we are hanging out with that lead up to these confrontations."

The Indiana Pacers' Stephen Jackson made headlines and created controversy when he allegedly pulled a gun during a night out with his teammates. On Oct. 6, Jackson got into an early morning fight outside a strip club in Indianapolis. According to police, Jackson fired at least five shots in the air. Jackson and two of his teammates had their guns seized by police, but Jackson was the only player charged. He has since pleaded not guilty to charges of battery, disorderly conduct and felony criminal recklessness. His trial is scheduled for Feb. 12.

"I think what Stephen needs to realize is he put himself in even greater danger by pulling the gun," Malone said. "Because what stops this person from getting on the telephone, turning the corner, telling his buddies to come down -- 'This man got a gun' -- and shoot him?"

Following Jackson's arrest, NBA commissioner David Stern said he would like players to leave their guns at home when they go out in public. "I don't think it's necessary to walk the streets packing a gun," Stern said during his preseason teleconference. "I think it's dangerous for our players.

"It's a pretty widely accepted statistic that if you carry a gun, your chances of being shot by one increase dramatically," Stern said. "We think this is an alarming subject, that although you'll read players saying how they feel safer with guns, in fact those guns actually make them less safe. And it's a real issue."

Pierce said he is not confident that Stern truly comprehends the players' position in this matter.

"I understand David Stern wants to clean up the image, but I think David Stern has to understand where we come from and what some of the players like to do," Pierce said. "I mean, we want to be looked at like normal people, but it's unfortunate that we can't."

Williams said athletes should be able to make their own decision on when and where to carry a gun for protection: "No league has the right to tell you how to defend yourself."
The NBA and NFL have similar policies regarding players and guns, each noting that even if players are licensed to carry a gun, they cannot carry them into stadiums and arenas, practice facilities or on team planes.

Although Major League Baseball has no written policy on players and guns, Scott says he never carried a gun into Minute Maid Park or on Astros'road trips. But everywhere else he goes, Scott says he is packing and prepared.

While Scott, Williams and Malone preach gun safety and advocate caution, all agree they will not hesitate to use their weapon for protection if their lives are in jeopardy.

"I hope I never have to pull my gun on anyone," Williams said. "I don't ever want to have to do that. But I will defend my life and the lives of people in my family."

Said Malone: "Would I use a gun if I had to? Absolutely. If it's my life and your life, and that's what it came down to? A gun? And we can't work it out no other way? Yes. Absolutely. But I hope in my life it never gets to that."

Scott discussed how his gun could save his life.

"If someone comes up in a threatening manner, you can say it with words. After that, action."

Scott reaches into his back pocket, draws his handgun and extends his arm in the ready position.

"This right here is enough to say, 'What do you need?' You better back off."
 
even though Diego lost

You should have been mentally prepared for that. Penn is on a whole different level. Sadly the only real interesting fights for him at 155 are not likely to happen: Aoki, Kawajiri, Alverez, and to a lesser degree Hansen, and JZ.

Some people may have a negative reaction to what Malone said in that interview above but he is pretty spot on about a lot of it.

"It's a pretty widely accepted statistic that if you carry a gun, your chances of being shot by one increase dramatically," Stern said.

Stern needs to take a class in logic. The assumption he is alluding to fails to take into account many factors that might explain that stat.
 
It is interesting that Malone seems to think that if you're high profile like say an NBA star you should give up your right to enjoy a social life. Don't get me wrong, I don't frequent nightclubs at all anymore, but in my younger day I did all the things that young men do - let's just say I know why some dollar bills have creases long ways in them. ;)

Now a days I do swing dance, I even compete sometimes. When I go to my swing dance events they are invariably at 4 and 5 star hotels in VERY nice parts of town. But when I leave it is late at night sometimes as late as 3 am or later. Guess what? To get home I have to go through whatever bad neighborhood is between me and home. I'm not giving up my hobby because of the bad guys. Pro athletes shouldn't have to either.

And that doesn't even address the fact that danger can occur anywhere anytime. Just ask my ex-wife who can tell you first hand how picking up the dry cleaning in the nice part of town at 3pm can be dangerous! She was happy to be carrying that day, and that was when she got serious about learning how to defend herself and getting her CHL.
 
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I had not seen that interview before, thanks for posting it. I heard before that he was a 2nd ammendment supporter and had a Nevada CCW permit. It is good to see that he has his career back on track these days, even though it has taken a few years after his motorcycle accident. I was impressed with how much muscle he has packed on. He looks like a completely different fighter again, but this time in a good day.
 
Mir was quite impressive last night.. I thought he would walk all over Kongo, but did not expect hime to do so with such ease. his new 'Functional" bult is impressive as well, he actually made Kongo look somewhat small!

It is good to see someone in a spotlight (other than nugent) step up.

as to BJ v Sanchez... well.. that was a taste of things to come I am afraid... there is nobody in that division who can outfight BJ... that doesnt mean he wont get caught EVENTUALLY, just means there is nobody near his skill level AND athleticism.

Did anyone else think that cut over Sanchez' eye looked somewhat like another eye? Was nasty.
 
even though it has taken a few years after his motorcycle accident.

Honestly I don't think his motorcycle accident and the broken leg had nearly as much effect on Mir's career as his poor training habits. Mentally he just was not into fighting for a while and was simple not disciplined when it came to fight preparation. In his last few fights his training has probably been better than at any point in his career.

He really is huge right now. After the the first Lesnar fight I remember standing by him thinking he was a big guy, he is probably 20-30 lbs heavier and much better built right now.

Did anyone else think that cut over Sanchez' eye looked somewhat like another eye? Was nasty

HAve you seen the cut Belfort gave Eastman?
 
I caught Randy Couture on a bowhunting show the other night. Maybe MMA is the arena where we as a culture will be able to thrive outside of political correctness.
Randy is another guy who is very well spoken and would be a good ambassador for outdoor sports. I am not a Matt Hughes or Tim Sylvia fan but they are avid hunters. I think Sylvia has hunted with fans too (for a fee). Speaking of sports, has anyone seen the video of Jared Allen spearhunting that he has on his website?
 
Couture, Lindland and Henderson are big hunters. I've heard Randy talk about Elk hunting a few different times.
 
I remember seeing ads in the UFC for either impactguns.com or gunbroker.com don't remember which one fighters get paid to wear all kinds of different advertisements on their trunks.
 
I have seen DPMS logos on various fighters' clothing/banners as well. I believe I have seen some gun store type ones too.

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