Why aren't Ruger semi-auto pistols popular?
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mordechaianiliewicz
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Ruger semi-auto pistols seem quite popular to me. I owned one for 7 years. And, am looking for one now. (thinking about the P345). Many of my gunny friends own one, or have owned them.
Now, I do imagine that when you say semi-auto pistol, you are referring to the P-series, seeing as how the Ruger .22 pistols are some of the most popular in the WORLD.
The P-series are liked by some. Not liked by others. They are, however, unarguably the ugly cousin to Smith and Wesson, Beretta and Sig for full-sized DA pistols for service use. That being said, the P95 might be the best handgun value out there.
The P89, P90, and P345 are all good shooting pistols that are very accurate and durable.... and the SR9, well, it is really good. It's like many of the striker-fired semi-autos, but atleast Ruger did it right when they got into that field.
Basically, Ruger is a good quality gun for everyone, and they make "everyman" pieces (I bought a P95 when I was making 23k a year as a bank's bill collector at the age of 21).
Now, I do imagine that when you say semi-auto pistol, you are referring to the P-series, seeing as how the Ruger .22 pistols are some of the most popular in the WORLD.
The P-series are liked by some. Not liked by others. They are, however, unarguably the ugly cousin to Smith and Wesson, Beretta and Sig for full-sized DA pistols for service use. That being said, the P95 might be the best handgun value out there.
The P89, P90, and P345 are all good shooting pistols that are very accurate and durable.... and the SR9, well, it is really good. It's like many of the striker-fired semi-autos, but atleast Ruger did it right when they got into that field.
Basically, Ruger is a good quality gun for everyone, and they make "everyman" pieces (I bought a P95 when I was making 23k a year as a bank's bill collector at the age of 21).
Hammerhead6814
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Some people still haven't forgiven Bill Ruger. Those people need to let a dead man lay to rest.
12131
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Yup, holding grudge on a dead man, absolutely ridiculous.:banghead:
Guillermo
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So I should not loathe Hitler, Lincoln, Mao, Stalin etc?
I think they still make the cute .22
LOL, Guillermo, it's rare to see Lincoln lumped in with Hitler, Mao, and Stalin. Of course, I realize you're from the South, but that is really holding a grudge for a long, long time.
I figger, loathe them when they are alive, study them after they are dead. With some of 'em, the sooner they are available for study, the better.
Landric
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I've owned two P-series Ruger pistols, a P90 and a P91DC. Both of them were basically junk, and I haven't owned a P-series pistol since, nor do I plan to. The P90 was reasonably accurate, but it was unreliable and the grip was awful. It was also extremely top heavy. The P91 was reliable, but it was miss the barn from inside accurate and suffered from the same ergonomic problems as the P90. I owned both pistols in the early 90's, so I'm sure the P-series line has improved some, but every time I look at one in a store, at a show, or one from the street (crooks like the P-series guns), I'm unimpressed.
I don't have any experience with the SR9 or the LCP. I don't have any use for another full size 9mm or the .380 at all. I am sure they are good pistols. The SR9 has a lot better ergonomics than the P-series guns for sure.
On the other hand I own two SP101 revolvers and a Ruger Standard .22LR (pre-MK I) and I have plans to buy a GP100, a Super Blackhawk, and probably the new Blackhawk in .327 Federal. I think Ruger makes some great guns, but their centerfire autos don't interest me much at all.
I don't have any experience with the SR9 or the LCP. I don't have any use for another full size 9mm or the .380 at all. I am sure they are good pistols. The SR9 has a lot better ergonomics than the P-series guns for sure.
On the other hand I own two SP101 revolvers and a Ruger Standard .22LR (pre-MK I) and I have plans to buy a GP100, a Super Blackhawk, and probably the new Blackhawk in .327 Federal. I think Ruger makes some great guns, but their centerfire autos don't interest me much at all.
Guillermo
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Lincoln used the power of government to illegally kill a bunch of people...he holds that in common with the others.
Some it is appropriate to toast their assumption of room temp. I would name a couple but don't want to get my nose slapped by a moderator. It hurts and the rolled up newspaper leaves ink marks.
JR47
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I own a large number of pistols like Sig, HK, Korth, Brown, Wilson, and the like. They cost a pretty penny, are accurate, and some are even durable.
I also own a P85 pre-Mk.I, a Mk.I Standard, a Mk.II Standard, a 22/45, a couple of Security-Sixes, a New Model Super-Single-Six, a Super Blackhawk, a Super Redhawk, a KP90, a KP97DC, a P345, a pair of P95s, and an SR9.
Why? Because they are affordable, accurate enough to win a local IDPA Match with, durable, and easy to use. They balance fine in my large hands, and the triggers, after being broken in, are quite controllable.
I find the controls on the CZ series to be much less esthetically pleasing, looking like after thoughts in shape, and see far too many operating problems in my 40P to ever trust them as CCW.
ANY full-size pistol is going to be hard to conceal with today's normal dress. Not just a Ruger. Try concealing a P92FS, or a P220, or a S&W Model M&P full-size. If you can do that, you can just as easily conceal a P89/90/97.
Beauty is in eyes of the beholder, unless you're on an Internet Forum, where one person's opinion suddenly seems like a great idea to jump on.
As for the brain dead who hold Ruger responsible for politics, what about SAAMI and S&W? S&W has to be sold because of their error, to get out of the agreement. Why not hate them the same? Hypocrisy is so easily found.
I also own a P85 pre-Mk.I, a Mk.I Standard, a Mk.II Standard, a 22/45, a couple of Security-Sixes, a New Model Super-Single-Six, a Super Blackhawk, a Super Redhawk, a KP90, a KP97DC, a P345, a pair of P95s, and an SR9.
Why? Because they are affordable, accurate enough to win a local IDPA Match with, durable, and easy to use. They balance fine in my large hands, and the triggers, after being broken in, are quite controllable.
I find the controls on the CZ series to be much less esthetically pleasing, looking like after thoughts in shape, and see far too many operating problems in my 40P to ever trust them as CCW.
ANY full-size pistol is going to be hard to conceal with today's normal dress. Not just a Ruger. Try concealing a P92FS, or a P220, or a S&W Model M&P full-size. If you can do that, you can just as easily conceal a P89/90/97.
Beauty is in eyes of the beholder, unless you're on an Internet Forum, where one person's opinion suddenly seems like a great idea to jump on.
As for the brain dead who hold Ruger responsible for politics, what about SAAMI and S&W? S&W has to be sold because of their error, to get out of the agreement. Why not hate them the same? Hypocrisy is so easily found.
I think that throughout history most governments make sure they pass some law making whatever they plan to do "legal". Sometimes they even do it after the fact. Human capacity for rationalization seems boundless. It can be very difficult to tell the good guys from the bad guys sometimes but on occasion, at least in a few cases, it's pretty much a slam dunk.
jimmyraythomason
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"I figger, loathe them when they are alive, study them after they are dead. With some of 'em, the sooner they are available for study, the better." Now that's funny,I don't care who you are,that's funny right thar!(Thanks Larry)
sheepdog
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...I love to read the negative comments on Ruger P-series...leaves more out there for me to buy this year!!! Love 'em!!!!! Will never buy another new Ruger Semi-Auto...
12131
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You missed my point. A lot of people still hold grudge against ole Bill, so they refuse to buy any Ruger guns these days, even after he is long dead and gone, and the current Ruger is run by different folks. Same thing with S&W during the AWB, when the company was owned by some British outfit.
By your reasoning, no one should buy stuff from Germany? or the USA? (Oops, you live here.
). Are you absolutely sure that anything you ever possessed or currently own never come from China? Sorry about the politics, mods. I'm done, now.
w_houle
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The Ruger fans should really thank the manufacturer of Hi Point for finally making an uglier gun than the P Series
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Deltaboy1984
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The Reason I trade my P-89 DC 9mm was I couldn't CCW it at all. It was a great range gun and it never gave me a minutes trouble. The Trigger was great on mine.
RobMoore
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I guess you haven't been playing attention to the M&P lately. Its much more popular than the HK, which made #1 on your list.
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