Glock 9mm OAL Help?

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Dan The Goat

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Hello,

I need some help trying to get the OAL right for a 9mm load for my Glock 19. This is what I've tried:

-Montana Gold 115 gr JHPs with 1.11-1.14" OAL
-4.3-5.0 gr Bullseye

For a while it seemed like 4.3 gr / 1.12" OAL was the best combo, but out of the last 400 rounds I had 3 get stuck on the ramp. Over the last 8 years with Glocks I've used Winchester 115gr FMJs and UMC 115gr JHPs with 0 failures to feed, so my experiments with reloading are a bit concerning. Anyone got ideas/suggestions?
 
Glocktalk may have more recommendations for you, but my only suggestion would be to lengthen out your OAL quite a bit, even out to the max -- 9mm can go pretty far out and the longer you can go out (with reliable ignition) the narrower your feed angles will be.

What is getting caught where? Is a case rim getting caught on the ramp or is the front of the bullet doing it? Are you on the stock barrel or an aftermarket? Is the ramp polished at all?
 
I use RN and TC rather than JHP but I load them 1.130 to 1.140 for the glock.
 
Thanks for the replies. It's the mouth of the jhp impacting the bottom of the feed ramp squarely, without feeding up and into the chamber. I haven't had one feed partially up the ramp and get stuck if you know what I mean. The barrel is stock, so is the recoil spring and guide rod. Nothing polished
 
I load to an O.A.L, of 1.155+- with 4 grs. Unique with a 147 gr bullet. Have used Rainier plated and Precision Delts jacketed. This load has worked well in all Glocks I've tried it in. Not a "Hot" load but it cycles the gun well and shoots well too. Got 3000 147 gr. MG bullets to try as soon as I get my present supply burnt up.
 
I load 115 XTP's to 1.115. I measured a factory Federal HP and it was shorter than that. Both feed in my G17, but then again everything does it is a Glock lol.
 
Yeah Kentucky that's exactly what I thought too. Makes me wonder if maybe 4.3 gr Bullseye is too light? Could this be the problem, or is it more likely the OAL of the cartridge?
 
Yeah Kentucky that's exactly what I thought too. Makes me wonder if maybe 4.3 gr Bullseye is too light? Could this be the problem, or is it more likely the OAL of the cartridge?

Do they cycle ok racking the slide by hand?
 
4.3gr according to the Alliant "Reloading Guide" would indeed be a basement load since it gives 4.2 to 4.7 for Bullseye at 1.125" OAL. But then again the OP reports the mouth of the HP striking the feed ramp at the wrong angle.

We obviously have a problem with 2 big variables. You could get results by changing either willy-nilly, or you can get real answers by changing each (amount of powder and type of bullet) one at a time.

I will tell you that IMHO you've got the right OAL range since GoldDots load at 1.130". I can't say more since I've never used the MG hollow point, but have always intended to.

Hope this helps!
 
No one mentioned the condition of the magazine follower, condition of top metal insert on the magazine and magazine spring tension.

I have noticed that worn magazine follower, worn spring and/or damaged top metal insert on the magazine all affect the feed angle to the ramp, thus causing the round to jam against the ramp or chamber.

I reload my 115 loads to 1.12" - 1.124" OAL without any feeding problems. I never needed to polish the ramp on any of my Glocks (9/40/45) and polishing would remove the factory coating on the barrel.

Try a new/different Glock magazine and see if the problem is duplicated. If the feeding problem goes away with a different magazine, then the problem is with your magazine, not with your powder charge or OAL.

I hope this helps.
 
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Kentucky: By loading up some dummies I was able to replicate the problem, but only at OALs of 1.15+ and less than 1.11. Even then it fed most of the time. Thanks for the suggestion

RFWobbly: Thanks for the advice I will try maybe some small batches of 4.5 and 4.7gr

BDS: You know that's what I first thought the deal was, but I just got some new magazines (10 rounders for HI law, dang it) and still no different
 
Update: I fired the remaining 150 rounds of 9mm (115gr MG JHPs over 4.0gr Bullseye @ 1.12 OAL) through a G19 and Beretta 92F with not so much as a hint of a stoppage. Should I be happy with the load I'm using or keep adjusting?
 
Dan, have you tried your load in other Glocks?

I try to make my reloads so that it will "universally" chamber and cycle any gun - although if it works well in your gun, that should be a good start. I often test my reloads with as many of my friends' guns at the range to make sure they function well in all of them.

Many people complain that factory loads cycle well, but some are not as accurate. For ammunition manufacturers, reliability maybe more important than accuracy.

For me, I work to achieve the most accurate load using the particular bullet weight/powder burn rate/powder charge/primer/OAL to duplicate 5% sub/near factory performance for more consistent practice (I believe we fight as we train). I believe many manufacturer use faster burning powder so that their rounds will function well even in short barreled sub-compacts.

If I can do this using the most economical/cleanest burning powder/charge combination, great, but accuracy and performance trump economy and dictate which powder and charge to use.

Besides, if things really did get ugly, I want to be sure I can supply and arm my "friendly allies" with as many rounds as I can (I hope that never happens, but being prepared is what I believe in).
 
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