My GLOCK jammed!

The OP looks like pretty obvious ammo failure... not gun related. On the other hand, the only Glock I have ever personally seen a failure in was a G21. It seemed to have trouble feeding, though I didn't spend enough time with the gun to figure out where it was hanging up. I do love Glocks, but I am not sure I could trust their 45acp versions as they seem far more prone to fail. Maybe those Austrian's just prefer the metric system... the 9mm and 10mm guns run like Swiss watches, while the 40 and 45 versions litter the internet with uncertainty.

This one seemed to do okay...

http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90

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I think i'm the only guy who actually likes UMC

I have never had a problem w it either

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Nor me-and I've shot a lot of the stuff out of at least three different semi-autos I own, including a Smith 6906, a CZ-85 and a Beretta 92. No Glocks, though.

The last box of UMC I shot would not consistently cycle my Glock 17. The lack of recoil from some rounds was noticeable--as were the failures to eject. I have had the same issues with some lots of Winchester white box.

Glocks are vastly overrated is your problem in a nutshell.

Glock troubleshooting 101:

A. Blame the shooter.
B. Blame the shooter.
C. Blame the shooter.
D. Blame the ammo.
E. Blame the magazine spring.
F. Blame the recoil spring.
G. Blame the competition for being no better.
H. Blame the shooter some more.

So on and so forth as long as you never blame the design.

Boats

That is not fair.

Glocks are exceptionally dependable and tough.

Also note that I do not have a dog in the hunt

I owned one Glock, a model 19. Ran great, thousands of rounds downrange. Bought another gun that filled the nitch and sold it. So I am Glockless but they are as dependable as gravity.

Also Boats, in this case it was definitely an ammo-related issue, that he probably would have caught if he had loaded his magazines a little slower and looked at the rounds a little more carefully.

Shazam! It happens. Ammo, Mag, YOU, gun? Figure it out and correct the problem. If it is made by man, it WILL malfunction. Perfection exists only in the mind of God. Sorry Gaston.

I never said they were perfect

but they are very dependable

Gravity doesn't fail nearly as much as Glocks do.

they are about the same in my experience

In this case I would agree that ammo was clearly the cause. I make it a habit to inspect ALL ammo before I feed it through my weapon. The only exception being my own handloads which have been loaded on a single stage press and have been inspected several times before going in the box. With factory ammo I dump a handful on the table, check all the primers, roll them over for a look see, and make sure they are all uniform in length, THEN I load them. But since I rarely shoot factory ammo any more it isn't really an issue for me.

Boats, we all know the OP made up the whole thing anyhow. Glocks will not only feed empty cases, they will fire them.

wow boats you must not like glocks. i think they're a great reliable design but there can be some improvements in design. however any gun will jam and out of all my guns the glock is least likely to do so. back on topic out of about 1000 rounds i have had one stove pipe with blazer steel case ammo under cold conditions. i've always used winchester white box and never had problems with them. wish prices weren't so high or ill be shooting it more often.

It's a feature, not a bug, as Bill Gates would say.

Mighty fine lookin' S&W 5906, BTW. (It was the one working without a hitch!)

They just don't make 'em like that any more, do they? But you can still get the plastic striker-fired gun, though.

The one thing I have learned about Glocks over the past seven years here is that there will always be excuses made for their non-performance.

I love GLOCK, but like all mechanical devices, they are prone to failure. Obviously a GLOCK will probably run better than a Hi Point pistol in the same caliber, but no firearm is immune from failure. I've had my GLOCK 17 malfunction twice. Once was when it was brand new and it didn't return to full battery (I hadn't cleaned it at all out of the box... D'oh!). The other time was when I limp wristed it and caused a jam, so I guess it wasn't a "failure" per se.

I've shot a good amount of winchester white box and UMC and the P226 ran it all, except one UMC round that was deformed. I kicked myself for not seeing it while loading magazines. But that's not bad at all. I would be very surprised if ammo were ever the reason.

Now, let's all take off our fanboy T-shirts and hats and listen to the cold hard truth.

The reason why some people complain about GLOCK pistols jamming is, by my experience, a result of the grip angle we either hate or love. A little bit of limp-wristing will reduce the force that opposes the force created by the round going off and pushing the slide back. When that happens, the slide "short strokes" and you get a jam. It's a matter of geometry. Of course, if you're holding the pistol like you should, this won't happen.

If you don't believe me and want to argue the point further, I'll draw you a force diagram and prove it. I do work like that on a daily basis.

You don't WANT a badly deformed round to chamber, folks... that is not dependent on whether you are a Glock lover or hater. Any pistol with an in-spec chamber *should not* chamber an out of spec round. If you like your fingers, you don't want your pistol to do so either.

The one thing I have learned about Glocks over the past seven years here is that there will always be excuses made for their non-performance.

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Gee Boats, as of this moment your last 10 posts have been rants on Glocks. Rather than just glock-trolling you might want to enlighten us on why you loath them so.

Again, I sold mine so I do not have a dog in the hunt. But they are tough and dependable and have a great track record.

So please, enlighten us.

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I agree that the problem is the ammo, not the pistol.

The only problem I have seen with UMC is from a friend's Glock 35. He asked me to take a look at his G35 because it was jamming. I loaded up a few magazines of the UMC and started shooting. Recoil was very very light, similar to a light 9mm. The brass was ejecting forward at one o' clock. I decided to chrono the UMC ammo and all 15 rounds ran in between 600 - 700 fps. My friend fired the rest of the UMC 40 cal ammo with the same results. I told him to send remington an email to advise them of the problem, but I don't think he did.

I have a 250 round brick of UMC 9mm that I plan on laying to rest when I go on vacation. I will report any issues , if any.

You don't WANT a badly deformed round to chamber, folks... that is not dependent on whether you are a Glock lover or hater. Any pistol with an in-spec chamber *should not* chamber an out of spec round.

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Part of the U.S. Army's testing before adopting the 1911 pistol involved insuring that it would, in fact, chamber and fire damaged and/or deformed and out-of-spec cartridges.

They purposely crushed them with pliers...seated the bullets much deeper...and knocked dings in the case rims with a hammer. The pistols chambered and fired all deformed rounds reliably and without stoppages.

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a name change to something like "antiglocktroll" or "foamingatthemouthglockhater" might be in order.

After all, this malfunction was clearly the malformed ammo

Part of the U.S. Army's testing before adopting the 1911 pistol involved insuring that it would, in fact, chamber and fire damaged and/or deformed and out-of-spec cartridges.

They purposely crushed them with pliers...seated the bullets much deeper...and knocked dings in the case rims with a hammer. The pistols chambered and fired all deformed rounds reliably and without stoppages.

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Dented rims and deep seated bullets, I can see...

I'd like to see some sort of modern incarnation of this to see first hand what they are talking about. Once they do any real crushing on a round, if it is bigger than X in any given direction, it just won't chamber of course. They couldn't have been *that* crushed...

a name change to something like "antiglocktroll" or "foamingatthemouthglockhater" might be in order.

After all, this malfunction was clearly the malformed ammo

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Oh man, I just searched the rest of that guy's posts (hell, he recommended it)...

Yes, I think I see what happened here now. Heh..