Any advice on choke/shot size for farm raised pheasants?

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Thinking of bringing my auto-5 16 gauge with fixed mod choke and number 6 high brass shells. Seem reasonable? I've never done this before. We're also going to be shooting some quail, which are going to be a bit harder to hit, but my main concern is I have something appropriate for the pheasants.

The other gun I'm considering is a 12ga 1100, but it has a fixed skeet choke in it. Is this too open for this type of hunting you think?
 
When I hunted pheasants in Iowa, I had my best luck with #5 shot. The #5s blow right through the bird and you have very few wounded birds. Most are dead when they hit the ground. A wounded pheasant can run much faster than I can and it's difficult to get a good shot at the wounded bird. If you are hunting with a good dog, that is not a problem. The modified choke should be fine.
 
If you're hunting planted birds over good dogs, skeet or IC choke will work fine. If they're nervous and seasoned birds that flush far, your Mod will do the trick. Fiocchi makes their golden pheasant loads with 5 or 6 shot in loads up to ~1-1/4 or 1-3/8 (in 12). Not the cheapest, but still less than $1/pop
 
Fiocchi A+

I really like the Fiocchi Pheasant load. It is the only factory load I use. Hits hard, kills clean. I use #4 for less holes, but bigger thump. The nickel plating seems to pull less feathers through the bird. Not a problem with 2 birds, but on 15 it really makes a difference. Patterns a bit tighter than most lead. Skeet has killed ~80% of my birds, Mod on the long range.

Wait for the shot to develop... Many folks shoot too soon on dog held birds. Wait a second to get a good dispersed pattern.

Hope this help and enjoy your outing.
 
I always used #5 when only pheasant are allowed.

Whenever pheasant & quail are running concurrently, #6 would be a better choise.

Of course, I have killed more then a few pheasents with # 7 1/2 while quail hunting too.

rc
 
I have traditonally used #6 in both 12 and 20 ga. This past season I switched to #4s, an 3" shells in the 20ga, and my unscientific reaction is that I was killing the birds better with the larger shot. I have killed pheasants with 7 1/2 too, so the most important thing is hitting them (and not in the tail feathers).
Skeet choke will work over dogs but on wild birds I use IC, in a double I use IC and Mod. What little experience I've had on pen-raised birds is that they don't want to flush and the shots will be close. I have seen pen birds refuse to flush and my dog get bored pointing and just reach in and grab the bird.
 
farmed birds aren't particularly tough. I've used 7 and 7.5 shot (game loads) for the first shot and #6 golden pheasant for the second (over dogs). Haven't needed any second shots. In the 12 gauge. Modified choke.

In 20 gauge the 2.75" #6 super X game loads worked fine for me. Modified choke.

YMMV
 
If the birds are sitting tight 6s will be plenty and 71/2s will work so long as you don't wait too long on the flush. If on the other hand if the birds are flushing wild, a .308 may not be enough. I always used IC for pheasant and quail.
 
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Yeah, kind of wish I had something to use in IC, thinking about a 12ga skeet choke over the 16ga mod choke, simply because I shoot better with the 12ga... at close range anyway...
 
My thinking is that I'll get a wider pattern, and higher energy to boot. The golden pheasant 12s will send 1 3/8oz at 1450, while the 16 1 1/8 at 1310... soooo I might be OK using the skeet.... sorry i'm indecisive on this stuff and never gone and spent money on birds like this before. I found we will be hunting over a dog, so that obviously helps.
 
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Key is to know what distance they'll flush at. Farm raised, over good dogs, you sometimes have to almost kick them to flush. In this case, I've shot plenty with my 20 gauge and 12 gauge with 7.5 shot and improved or mod chokes. If you don't know the distance I think it's hard to beat mod choke and 6 shot.

If you haven't hunted pheasant before, try to focus on the birds head when it flushes. you'll hit more. Lots of people shoot behind the bird because they focus on all the action going on with the big wings and long tail.
 
It's been about 30 some years ago when I last hunted pen raised birds back in Illinois. As noted sometimes you have to give them a 'kick start' to get them to fly and I had my best luck using a cylinder bore Mossberg 550 'deer barrel' loaded with high brass # 6s.

RJ
 
Just an update... I ended up borrowing a buddies 1100 barrel which took tubes, and I used an imp. cyl. Shot a 29/56 on sporting clays (my first time so don't criticize too bad!) and destroyed the birds. How tight these birds held I think I could have used just about anything to take them down. The cocks flushed pretty good, but the hens had eggs in them and pretty much wouldn't take off. Anyway it was fun and thanks for all the tips. I think I'll fret a bit less about it next time.
 
I like 4, 5 or 6 shot, in a 12 or 20 gauge with I.C. choke. Any of those loads will put a definite hurt on a pheasant. I do see a difference between wild and farmed pheasant in terms of when they flush, and the fury at which they launch.

Geno
 
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