Maverick223
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I certainly wouldn't brag about it...or tell anyone about it...or do it to a friend (or most anyone else). 
Did I get a good deal, or did I get a good deal?
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grubbylabs
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Wonder why he has not posted back?
Maverick223
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Trouble sleeping...had a rifle to return?
gasteffens
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Good grief.
rangerruck
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Man! the smug alert here is reaching critical mass; all we need for you guys to do now, is repeat the George Clooney academy award acceptance speech, and we will have the perfect smug storm!!! See the episode of Southpark.
he told the guy how much money he had on him at the time he asked. the conversation went gone. The friend , after thinking a few minutes , called back, and asked him, for the same money, not any more to be promised later. They are also friends, and if so, no hard feelings between the parties. I see nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with this deal; you also have no idea of their history , and you do not know if first dude ever went out of his way to help second dude out, another time in the past. You dudes have nowhere near enough information, to make some of the statements you are making against this guy.
Sometime down the road, this first dude may do something anyway, that makes up for some of the money anyhow- you just don't know.
I say ' smug alert'... very unattractive...
he told the guy how much money he had on him at the time he asked. the conversation went gone. The friend , after thinking a few minutes , called back, and asked him, for the same money, not any more to be promised later. They are also friends, and if so, no hard feelings between the parties. I see nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with this deal; you also have no idea of their history , and you do not know if first dude ever went out of his way to help second dude out, another time in the past. You dudes have nowhere near enough information, to make some of the statements you are making against this guy.
Sometime down the road, this first dude may do something anyway, that makes up for some of the money anyhow- you just don't know.
I say ' smug alert'... very unattractive...
TenDriver
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I did something similar years ago with an SP-101, but the price I paid was more reasonable to both parties with an agreement that I wouldn't sell it to anyone but him, and for the same price. Years later, I parted with that SP for the same price I paid to the same friend.
I don't have the SP, but I still have my friend, and other guns I can enjoy. He has his SP which he really enjoys and never wanted to sell anyway.
I hope you've either given him a fair price, his gun back, or you're full of manure. If you've done none of the above, what comes around, goes around.
I don't have the SP, but I still have my friend, and other guns I can enjoy. He has his SP which he really enjoys and never wanted to sell anyway.
I hope you've either given him a fair price, his gun back, or you're full of manure. If you've done none of the above, what comes around, goes around.
Zilmo
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Nope. Don't buy that at all.
Tim the student
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rangerruck, i can see where you are coming from, but I disagree with you. It sure looks to me that he knew he was getting a gun a far below a fair price. Just because someone agrees to it doesn't make it fair or ethical. Especially in a situation like that - where the guy just lost his job and "really needed the money".
Do you think there would be hard feelings between the two if the guy knew how much he could have gotten for it?
Do you think there would be hard feelings between the two if the guy knew how much he could have gotten for it?
Maverick223
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Same here, it is one thing to get one over on a big store like Gander Mtn....but completely different to do likewise to a "friend", neighbor, or acquaintance.
Ignition Override
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I can't really judge the OP guy, but when a total stranger sold me my first unused, near-mint SKS (Norinco) two years ago for $200, my instinct and action was to give the guy an extra $30 for being so generous at about 35% below some market prices.
Those on GB were listing at about $270-300 two years ago, and from my view good will is involved with some deals.
My drive had taken about an hour more, so that we could meet behind the McDonalds', but this was also during his work day.
A friend sold me 1,000 rds. of Wolf x39 three months after the election for $200, and I won't forget his goodwill/generosity, as he had faith that I would pay it over about four weeks: installment plan in reverse.
Those on GB were listing at about $270-300 two years ago, and from my view good will is involved with some deals.
My drive had taken about an hour more, so that we could meet behind the McDonalds', but this was also during his work day.
A friend sold me 1,000 rds. of Wolf x39 three months after the election for $200, and I won't forget his goodwill/generosity, as he had faith that I would pay it over about four weeks: installment plan in reverse.
A great deal from a stranger that's just asking a low price is fine, but taking advantage of a desperate friend ain't right. I agree with everyone else, either pony up some more cash and make it right, or make it known that he can always buy it back for $50. Always remember, "what comes around, goes around".
pretty interesting. Sounds like there may be some halfway decent people left in the world. Minus the poster. I read this early on but didnt think it would be this huge. well... if he didnt feel crappy then, its just not in him. no words can make him realize he screwed his 'buddy' over.
notbubba
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cauberallies did you think you woud get a big thumbs up for this???
cauberallies
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Jeez! I leave out the technicalities to save time and space, and the sky starts falling on me! I definitely see where all of you are coming from, and I didn't really think of it that way until I read back through it as if I didn't know the rest of the story. I just didn't figure it was a big enough deal to mention the fact that I promised him that I will never sell it, that I will give him more for it when I can if he changes his mind and wants more for it, and that he can buy it back for exactly what I paid for it any time he wants. And for those who still think I'm a horrible friend and that I should be ashamed of myself, I'll have you know that he didn't ask for the things I just said. I not only offered, but insisted when he said it didn't matter to him. Plus, he knows very well that if he really needs money, I would lend or give it to him without question if I have it.
This wasn't me taking advantage of someone who doesn't know better. He knows exactly what the gun is, and how much it's worth, and although I made it clear that he could buy it back if he wanted to, he said that he doesn't plan on it because he would rather see someone putting it to use than letting it sit in his closet. I made sure he was absolutely sure he wanted to go through with it before we did the deal, and told him that even though I only had $50 right then and there, that I would give him more for it when I was able to, but he insisted that he only wants this $50. He said he sees it as a win win situation, and he has no qualms about giving it to me for $50 because he got the cash he needed when he needed it, and because it makes him happy to be able to give a friend such a good deal.
I hope this clears things up, and allows a discussion that isn't centered around questioning the quality of my character.
This wasn't me taking advantage of someone who doesn't know better. He knows exactly what the gun is, and how much it's worth, and although I made it clear that he could buy it back if he wanted to, he said that he doesn't plan on it because he would rather see someone putting it to use than letting it sit in his closet. I made sure he was absolutely sure he wanted to go through with it before we did the deal, and told him that even though I only had $50 right then and there, that I would give him more for it when I was able to, but he insisted that he only wants this $50. He said he sees it as a win win situation, and he has no qualms about giving it to me for $50 because he got the cash he needed when he needed it, and because it makes him happy to be able to give a friend such a good deal.
I hope this clears things up, and allows a discussion that isn't centered around questioning the quality of my character.
axeman_g
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Cauber....
I am glad you added those details. This is the THR which sometimes people people remember what that means and others feel it gives them the right to take their interpretation of the moral high ground.... I have been quilty of that in the past also.
Glad to hear all parties are satisfied, I hope you friend luck getting back on his feet and soon finds the time, ability and desire to get that 722 back from you and start shooting it again.
I am glad you added those details. This is the THR which sometimes people people remember what that means and others feel it gives them the right to take their interpretation of the moral high ground.... I have been quilty of that in the past also.
Glad to hear all parties are satisfied, I hope you friend luck getting back on his feet and soon finds the time, ability and desire to get that 722 back from you and start shooting it again.
amd6547
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Completely different story...
Makes a big difference when you tell the rest of the story.
Good to see that you, and so many of our other members, would not abuse a friend's bad fortune to get a killer deal.
Good to see that you, and so many of our other members, would not abuse a friend's bad fortune to get a killer deal.
bogus mcall
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Sounds like damage conrtol to me. I may be wrong but if you really wanted to help out your "buddy" you would have first bought the .22 pump from him. Even if u did'nt want it, he was selling it because he needed the money. Then as a "Good" friend, offered to buy the other rifle at a honest price. As a matter of fact tell your buddy i will give him 100.00 for the pump. PM me.
Art Eatman
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cauberallies, stipulate that everything you said in Post #46 is true. It still comes across as damage control.
IOW, the lesson here is "Think twice, post once." Give the complete story, or don't post.
IOW, the lesson here is "Think twice, post once." Give the complete story, or don't post.
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