Did I get a good deal, or did I get a good deal?

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Cauberallies, thanks for adding those details. They make a big difference.

My apologies - as long as bogus mcall isn't right. I sincerely hope he is not.
 
I hope this clears things up, and allows a discussion that isn't centered around questioning the quality of my character.
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If you didn't want a discussion centering around your character, you shouldn't have posted the origional post, bragging about doing something that came off as unethical.

However, I'm glad that you cleared it up. I hope your latest post was accurate. I suppose we have no reason to believe it isn't.


IOW, the lesson here is "Think twice, post once."
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^ That pretty much says it.
 
The one positive that I can see is that you get to use a wonderfully accurate firearm while it's in your care.

The question of friendship has been resolved in my eyes.

Now the members of THR can rest easy again.




NCsmitty
 
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His buddy still would have been better off pawning it than just getting $50 for it!
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That's not necessarily true. I do rediculously low deals with friends and family all the time because we both know that we can count on eachother to hook one another up the next time. And besides if they are close friends then I'm sure he's figuring he could borrow it anytime he wants anyway, so it may not even matter who actually owns it.
 
"They are also friends, and if so, no hard feelings between the parties. I see nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with this deal; you also have no idea of their history , and you do not know if first dude ever went out of his way to help second dude out, another time in the past. You dudes have nowhere near enough information, to make some of the statements you are making against this guy.
Sometime down the road, this first dude may do something anyway, that makes up for some of the.....' etc., etc., etc.

Seems like some guy who made up this statement before, use a little common sense and a bit of natural, ' not open the piehole before you know all the info...'
Oh yeah, that was me!!!! I told you guys.... smug alert over.
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My buddy in bad shape had a beautiful sig p220... He was gonna sell it to me for $100 to cover his over draft fee's on his bank account.

I acted as a pawn shop to him, gave him $500 as more of a "Loan"... the gun's his, he shoots with me still with that gun and when he gets back on his feet again, he can put it back in his safe.

in the real world, whats $50?.... just odd i guess.

JOe
 
That sounds bad . . . really bad . . .

I have made unsecured loans to friends, sometimes hundreds of dollars, on mere trust -- "Just pay me back when you can." And they did.

Sorry, but I would have said, "Look, here's $50, just keep the gun and pay me back later."

Sounds like you let greed get a hold of you.

EDIT: Okay, I should have read the whole thread first, and it doesn't sound the same now -- but it would have made a big difference if the OP had stated all the details first.
 
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The gun was made in the 50-60's I do not see how its worth to a brand new one priced at $500-$600.... I would say its worth $175~$220 depends on how many the round count/ barrel looks. Should have gave him atlest $135 for it.
 
I just hope he didn't need the money to feed his kids.
If he did, they're getting hungry again. Maybe offer to buy his house for $100-$150. (another great deal, right?)

I'd buy the pump for $100.
If you buy it, you should give him at least $400 for it.

I think your 2nd post was damage control also.

Nothing like really putting the screws to your "buddy" when he's in dire straits.

How does your dinner taste lately?
 
Well, 62 posts into this thing, I'll put my $.02 in. OP, you stiil have the opportunity to do the right thing here, but you don't have to do it all at once. Instead of waiting for the seller to ask for more money (who would do that, really?), give him what the gun is worth in installments. Send him a check each month until you've paid the gun's value. You'll sleep better and he will be grateful-win/win! ;)
 
I can't see taking collateral for a $50 loan to a buddy, let alone buy a rifle off him. I'm not saying he didn't fully agree to the deal and that he wasn't fine how it went down, but I wouldn't have left with a rfifle for that money.

Hope it shoots well for you.
 
If I were in this situation, I would have sat down with my buddy and said I'll give you $1000 for this rifle, however if I'm ever in a tough spot and you're back on your feet, I would like to have someone I can sell it back to for what I paid for it.
 
Not going to judge... Like I'd said in another thread, there are a lot of "good" deals out there due to the horrible economic times (oh yeah - we're suppose to be already coming out of this one, right???). :(

For anyone in a bad financial position where they need to sell their firearms, my only advice is to sell them online. If you don't have a CC to register on Gunbroker, have a friend do it for you. I have transacted on GB for about 2 years and (thankfully) the folks on GB are probably the some of the straightest shooters ever when it comes to buying & selling online.
 
you should keep sh*t like that to yourself, gloating about taking advantage over someone's unfortunate situation. You'll pay one way or another.
 
"Jeez! I leave out the technicalities to save time and space, and the sky starts falling on me!":scrutiny:
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I'm not your friends buddy, but I would have given him the money and refused the gun. But if I was in your case (took the gun), I would start taking him out to dinner/shoot/simple things to help cover the huge hit he took. Hell, even better, I would find out his problem and help him ... not just give him a fish and expect him to live on it.

However, if you lend someone money: do not expect it back. If your bud pays you back that is great, but demanding it or reminding them can destroy a friendship very quickly

I am not like you and you certainly are not like me, but even with the "details" I still can't help but feel you really messed up.

Regards and the best of luck.
 
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They are also friends, and if so, no hard feelings between the parties. I see nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with this deal; you also have no idea of their history , and you do not know if first dude ever went out of his way to help second dude out, another time in the past. You dudes have nowhere near enough information, to make some of the statements you are making against this guy.
Sometime down the road, this first dude may do something anyway, that makes up for some of the.....' etc., etc., etc.

Seems like some guy who made up this statement before, use a little common sense and a bit of natural, ' not open the piehole before you know all the info...'
Oh yeah, that was me!!!! I told you guys.... smug alert over.
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Sooo. . . someone I don't know takes the time to start a thread crowing about a great deal he got and I'm supposed to stand by and assume that he just forgot to include any of the details that would exonerate him from seeming like a major league jerk? Assumptions run both ways.

Give the complete story, or don't post.
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Agreed.
 
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Like I said, if I had more to give, I would have, but in reality, my situation isn't all that much better than his. My recording studio business isn't doing very well at all, to the point where I consider myself unemployed. I am currently doing odd jobs here and there until I can find a steady. And when I said I only had $50, I meant I literally had $50 in my wallet. I lived out of the change jar for a few days after that.

Another point that I failed to mention is that we aren't "established" adults with other people to support. I'm 20 and he is 19. We both still live at home at this time, so it's not like he was going to starve or be out on the street without that money. If that were the case, I would have given him everything I had without question, or let him stay with me, or both. If it makes any difference, it was for a down payment on a car. The engine in his Honda was shot, so he sold it, and he was still a couple hundred short of the down payment on the one he planned on buying. He just assumed he'd cover the difference out of his next paycheck, but he lost his job a day or two after that.. About a week later, the used car dealership called him and said they had a few people interested in it, and they couldn't hold it any longer without a down payment, so he started selling his stuff. He sold his Turkish Mauser earlier that day before I talked to him for $50, I bought the 722, and helped him find people to buy a few other things, like that pump .22 and a bass guitar. And for the few of you who offered to buy the pump .22, that's very thoughtful, but it has already been sold. I found someone later that same day who paid $75 for it.

You guys would understand this a lot better if you knew us and our situations. There is nothing nefarious going on, and we are both totally satisfied with this deal.
 
You guys would understand this a lot better if you knew us and our situations. There is nothing nefarious going on, and we are both totally satisfied with this deal.

Sorry for ragging on you, I guess were not completely different.

Sincerely: best of luck.


P.S. A recording studio, what kind of bands have you recorded? What system are you running/etc? I'm really interested in digital audio production but don't have enough reason or cash to buy my own supplies. Until I have either I just mooch and learn off of my schools elaborate system (pro tools le w/ a peavy board). (off topic but attempting to salvage this thread).
 
I must say, I have been in situations where a friend has given me something of high value and asked for nothing in return. I have done the same as well. So minus the part where he says his buddy was 'down', and its a legit deal. I've been 'hooked' up before.
 
Good to know you helped your friend out cauber. That is taking the high road, which, as you can see is taken pretty seriously. Good deal.

Now, about your story telling narrative... kinda interesting to watch the thread and responses about said perceived good deal.

But the important thing... where do you get your .222 ammo? When can we see some pictures? Range report? Let's get back to rifle talk guys.
 
Use the rifle for collateral, for the loan of $50.00...otherwise you are robbing your "buddy".
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I'm almost with Mav on this one except I would say you don't loan a "friend" money, you GIVE it to them with NO expectations on getting it back. When/if they pay you back, you have then truly helped out a brother in need.

Some friends don't help, but a true friend is closer than your own family -Pro 18:24 CEV

One despising his friend lacks heart, but a man of understanding remains silent -Pro 11:12
 
Damage control or not, it takes two to make a sale. There is no shame in a bargain, for surly a stranger would have paid the asking price without hesitation or guilt. However at that price it is very believable that post #46 stipulations were in place.
 
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