FBI Releases Preliminary Statistics for Law Enforcement Officers Killed in 2009

They're not just statistics.

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But when it comes to lawmaking, they are just a number. Remember that the allegation that LEOs are more likely to be the victim of a felonious assault is the reason why a retired LEO from Alaska has the ability to carry a concealed weapon in Illinois, and I don't. You refute such claims by proving that LEOs are not more likely to face such assaults when off the job.

Even on the job, police officers are not being killed at a higher rate than the general population of our major cities, yet many of our largest cities deny the citizens their most effective means of self defense: firearms.

and BTW- the fact that 5.6 officers per 100,000 were feloniously killed in 2009 is not technically a statistic, it is a fact. To simplify things: A statistic is basically a prediction of how the total population will react based upon how a randomly selected subset of that population reacted. Recording the death rate of the entire population of police officers is not a statistic, but a mere reporting of the facts.

CCW holders

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Limiting it to that class skews the statistics. It would have to include all legal firearm's owners. Many incidents ocure during DV incidents that have nothing to do with CCW.

48 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed in the line of duty during 2009.

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Is that stat for officers killed while on duty? If so, I wonder how many were killed while off duty and taking police action?

Is that stat for officers killed while on duty? If so, I wonder how many were killed while off duty and taking police action?

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Since this cop was killed in a robbery of his home while off duty (and it was still considered to be a line of duty death) I would say that the numbers include all officers killed criminally. This means that the numbers are useless for statistical purposes, because the number can never be lower than the public at large.

It would interest me to know, of those killed on duty, how many were working on criminal investigations (acts with complaining victims - murder, robbery, arson, etc.) as opposed to vice (no complaining victim - drugs, gambling, prostitution, etc.).

because the number can never be lower than the public at large.

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I don't understand what you mean by that, please clarify, thanks.

Because police officers are a part of both groups. If all crimes against them while off duty are counted as having happened on duty, then the rate of on duty death will never be lower than the rate of death for the public.

If you wanted to calculate the rate of LODD (r), and you made it a formula stating x is the rate of on duty deaths, and y is the rate of deaths of the entire population of the US, the formula would be:

r=x+y

So you see that even if no cops were killed on duty, the rate of police LODD would still equal the rate of the population of the US.