Cylinder-Slide Glock?

To me, it's a matter of personal preference. Some folks like to own/operate professionally customized weapons. I don't.

Why would you when it is known for being the one of the worlds most reliable and used pistols bone stock?? Some people have too much $$

Ture benz....Glock is one pistol you can buy and shoot.
Why do all that crap to it? .....and to the tune of 1700 bones that's nuts

Man, that's expensive...and in my opinion completely unnecessary. I'm happy with all of my Glocks the way they are.

It's been my experience that C&S does great work. I'm sure someone will buy one so they can say "I have a C&S Glock."

I can think of quite a few other firearms I'd rather spend $1700 on.

Some people have too much $$

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Oh joy, here comes the wealth envy aspect again..............

Who cares? If someone wants to spend the money, (and obviously they have enough customers with a 8-month backlog), what does it matter?

Where to start.

* Pistol - Ok a 250-300 dealer.
* Grip Reduction - 120 or 200 tops.
* Remove Finger Grooves - part of the melting job.
* Wrap Around Stipple 360 degrees - a soldering iron can do it really fast.
* Scallop Frame at Mag Catch - Why?
* Recrown barrel 11 degrees - there is a crown already.
* Polish and contour feed ramp - It already works.
* Radius and tension extractor - Still not broken
* Carry Bevel Slide - its not like they are thin who cares. Plus new holsters are going to be really hard to find.
* Trigger take up reduced - any glock armorer can do this.
* Trigger job 5-6 lbs - comes standard from factory.
* Heinie Glock Slant pro sight set black - OK worth it but not a real custom feature.
* Front Cocking Serration - not necessary.
* Test Fire - whoopee glock does that at the factory too.
* FET - No clue what that is.

All of this "custom" work is unnecessary, worthless and come from the factory standard. C&S is really reaching for business here. For the Low Low price of 1705.00 they can pack sand.

Dumb. I'd rather buy three NIB Glocks

Oh joy, here comes the wealth envy aspect again..............

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You can pretend to be wealthy on the internet if you wish, but do not assume to know my financial standing because of my comment on a custom Glock!
I will tell you this, assume I made 10,000 or assume I make 500,000 a year cause either way I am not dropping 1,700 on a Glock, If I am spending that much, it is a custom Hi-Power or a Wilson 1911.

Well, while some stuff they do makes me laugh, check this out....

http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=prodshow&ref=CSP901

That is sweet as anything, and it too is crazy expensive (but at least it is something special and rare).

Where to start.

* Pistol - Ok a 250-300 dealer.

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That's not dealer price on a glock.

All of this "custom" work is unnecessary, worthless and come from the factory standard.

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A grip reduction comes standard from the factory? A trigger job comes standard from the factory? A lot of people who are serious users do some these mods they are not all without benefit. The issue to me is more the price they are asking for some of it.

* Carry Bevel Slide - its not like they are thin who cares. Plus new holsters are going to be really hard to find.

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You are not going to need a new holster you beveling not dramatically altering the shape or dimensions. Based on your comments I'm curious if you understand the purpose of this modification and what it entails. My 26 is already rounded more than my 19 and neither are uncomfortable to carry. Its not a bad modification but not one I need. There's not a lot of sharp edges on a glock.

* Scallop Frame at Mag Catch - Why?

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Some people find it to be of benefit in getting to the mag release. I see nothing wrong with this mod per se and particularly not if it makes the gun more usable for the shooter. Even if it adds a lot in function it is a $10 mod at bowie tactical.

There is a lot of room to critique that pistol at that price so no reason to stretch to silly critiques.

I see some of those mods as being useful others as being rather superfluous.

I would modify the frame: Grip reduction, under cut the trigger guard, round the trigger guard, 360 degree stipple, stipple the frame flats. However one can do it themselves if they really like or pay a couple hundred for it do be done very competently. Bowie, bore sight, etc will do this.

Paying someone to make any of my glocks "more reliable" would be as silly as flushing money down the toilette. They run very well as is and I don't see those mods offering any real value.

I see no practical value in recrowning the barrel on my glocks. It might have benefit on paper but given how I use them and what I need them to do, I see nothing that would benefit me in the real world. In fact I would rather spend the money on a threaded barrel.

Personally I'm not a fan of front cocking serrations. I wouldn't have them put on my gun if it was free.

I personally run a stock trigger on my glock but trigger work could provide benefit.

The sights are a good upgrade but you don't need a premium price gunsmith to install them.

In sum, there are some worthwhile mods there, others that are "going the extra step" one could say. The real issue to me is that you can get the work done well for much less (and just the parts of it that really offer something for even less). Of course if a shirt doesn't say Versace you can get it for much less too. In the end the price is what the market will bear.

I would modify a Glock to be a more useful pistol to me but no that pistol is not worth $1700 to me.

I'll also add there are stippling jobs out there that I like much more than the one on the gun pictured on their sight.

Yeah, $1700 is ridiculous for a Glock.

I have a G21SF with some of the same work. Here is what it cost me:

Pistol: $473 NIB w/3mags.
Grip reduction: $150 (360 stippling, finger grooves removed, and color coat of your choice included).
Night Sights: $125 (Warrens)
Trigger package: $40
SS guide rod: $30

Total= $818
Savings of $882

Some of that stuff that they list is not really needed, IMO. I think most of that $1700 is just paying for the C&S name.

First you wont find a 1700 glock in my safe any time soon BUT I firmly believe that if somebody wants to spend that on a glock then go for it. Frankly I dont care. Just like I dont get why people love polished 1911's BUT I dont tell them there wrong for buying one.

We each place value on different things, I am sure that many here would not enjoy some of the value I have put into my guns but as long as they are my guns thats really the end of the story.

I'm not saying someone should not own that custom Glock, I am just saying that I don't know of anyone who would. I mean someone is buying Mini Coopers so it has to take all types right?? JK

Very well since this is the internet I will justify myself to a complete stranger Girodin.....

Dealer price and military price is not that different. I know due to being in the military and my friend is a dealer. He gets great prices I guess.

"A grip reduction comes standard from the factory? A trigger job comes standard from the factory? A lot of people who are serious users do some these mods they are not all without benefit."

It is called the Gen 4 Glock. The standard trigger is 5 lbs. So yes it is standard and not a necessary custom feature. A dremel and soldering iron fixes the other problems. Or you can get an extended mag release.

We used the Glock overseas in Iraq and it was a fine weapon. Even in the sand and dirt storms. We had several guys with them and in each case the only mods we really needed was a 3.5 disconnect and extra springs. Aside from that they worked fine as can be. Polishing a feed ramp that does not need it, not needed FCS, radius and tension extractor is not needed either, an 11 degree crown is not needed either.

All of the custom features baring the FCS and the Re-contouring you can do yourself. 1700 dollars for a custom Glock is plain silly. Now if you could tell me it will shoot 1.5 inch groups with these mods i would consider. Or if the glock was a unreliable weapon yeah I could see it. But the glock is reliable as is and does not need too much done to make it a more comfortable carry piece.

So having carried one overseas, in a actual combat zone and knowing what makes a good pistol run in adverse conditions.

I know what my pistols need and adjust them accordingly. I do not think 1700 for a glock with mods that are generally standard in the new model. So if you think that the mods are necessary go ahead and get them. I think there are better things you can do with that kind of money, like get professional training that is not from the local range.

As to dealer price perhaps it is a matter of distributors, but I know what my dealer friends get them for and its not $250. I wish it was I'd probably have a several more Glocks

It is called the Gen 4 Glock

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Its not the same as grip reduction and stipple job. Which if you read my whole post you would note I said was a do it yourself job.

The standard trigger is 5 lbs

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There is more to the feel of trigger than just its pull weight. That said I do not think they have any magic or unknown tricks they are doing.

I notice you didn't bring back up the slide bevel argument.

Apart from that I pretty much agree with you and that's what the rest of my previous post said.

The Grip is reduced by the interchangeable back strap. It might not be like shaving the pistol and melting the thing down.

Just so you know i was not looking for an argument. I was commenting on the C&S marketing ploy.

The trigger job that they do is most likely polishing the trigger bar and small components that contact the trigger system. A buffing wheel achieves this nicely. That is if you are comfortable doing this.

The slide re-contouring is not a big deal for me. The holsters I use are already easy to get the pistol into. In addition to the grinding away for re-contouring is going to take the tenifer finish off. I have handled the 26 and 36 and it sure is a nice feature to have on the compact carry pistols.

Dealer price and military price is not that different.

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Dealer price is $440 and MIL price is $398.20.

I don't begrudge C&S their fee for the work or anyone willing to pay, but I will pass. I don't feel the need for any of that stuff. The only mods I've done to my own G19 are night sights and an extended slide takedown tab with accompanying upgraded retention spring (which has broken before). It doesn't need anything else. I had it for nine years before even doing that.

Since most of the work done to this pistol is labor and not parts, how many hours of labor do you think that is? It's more than a couple but most of that work isn't as labor intensive like hand fitting a lot of parts on some guns and a real nice checkering job. A Glock trigger job doesn't exactly require years of gunsmithing experience to perform. Heck, you could even buy a drop in kit with the work already done for pretty cheap. The sights are what...around $100 or so, the gun itself is what..$500ish. So you're really looking at somewhere around $1100 in labor charges plus the markup on the gun/sights itself. Yikes. No thanks!

This reminds me of those kids that buy an old beat up honda civic and dump $10,000 worth of shiny aftermarket parts into it. Then they end up selling it for not much more than they paid for it originally.