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Tell them what they want to hear and then do what's right for you.
There's a word for that...

It's called lying!

Don't do it. Not worth it. If you feel like your parents need to know you're carrying at church then tell them the truth. If they can't be convinced that it's the right thing to do then y'all just agree to disagree.

Don't lie about it.
 
Just make sure it stays concealed, most likely nobody will ever know about it, and if you ever have to use it i doubt they will fault you for it.
 
Although im not of the same faith i have seen people carry in my faith. Mostly the individuals were retired police or some profession that they had a few enemys. It is sad to see that even in church you cant. just sit peacefully and worship. I guess it comes down to what your church says about the issue. I personally dont carry in the church just because Im not to worried about someone coming after me. If i get gunned down in church, well then what better place to die. At least your doing what your supposed to do.;) Just my thoughts
 
We've had plenty of discussions about carrying during services, weddings, etc. and the short form of the responses are -

1) See examples of church shootings in the past few years. One was stopped in CO by a person armed at the church while another in TN was stopped when several members swarmed the shooter when he paused to reload his shotgun. Which would you rather see, a single person armed with a CCW stop an attack or hope that others in the group were charging a gun wielding lunatic.

2) Would you rather leave your gun locked in the car for someone to steal?

3) Would you rather leave your gun at home in the safe and go without it all the way too and from and possibly every stop between?

4) Exactly who's supposed to protect you if not yourself?

5) If you're concerned about what's right for the setting talk to the person who's responsible for it and not your parents. If you don't want to be told no, don't ask the question and use your own judgement as an adult.
 
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Here are the "Off Limits" places in North Carolina (from handgunlaw.us).



I don't know for sure that all property owned by a church that also owns a school would count as property owned by that school, but it seems likely. I'd call the state's Attorney General's office and try to get an answer on that. Also, you could try your state rifle association just to see if they happen to know of case law on the matter.

From a philosophical standpoint, you absolutely DO need to be armed, if at all LEGALLY possible. Churches -- and those nice folks attending them -- are prime targets for violent crime. Not that there are "safe" neighborhoods, but it sounds like the one surrounding your church is especially UNsafe. Trust your instincts!

If you determine that it is legal to carry in your church, DO SO. It is no business of your parents or any of the other attendees what personal defensive items you carry.
I believe the church would own the school, not the other way around.

Here in Michigan you are allowed to carry in church with a CPL IF you have permission of the person running the church. A friend of mine was robbed going into church recently. If the law and your church allow it do it discretely. It's a personal choice.
 
Of course, that's if you don't have any religious problems with causing bodily harm to another human being.

At my church, most people own guns. No one carries.
 
Well, we're about 25 miles from new life. Our church has an armed security group that has had tactical training too. Our pastor doesn't own or shoot guns. So . . . .

One other thought, if it's concealed why do your parents have to know?
 
"At my church, most people own guns. No one [strike]carries[/strike] who carries discusses it in public."
 
I choose to not carry in church. But, that is just based on my location and personal preference. However, I have nothing against the idea.

If you are able to carry, then carry whenever you feel the need to do so (or wherever you are able to do so, by law)...that is my take on the matter.
 
OP, it sounds like you live with mom and dad. Too many posts and too little time to read them all, but the only advice I'd give anybody in your situation is "Honor thy Mother and Father." Then, when you get out from under their roof, do whatever you want, unless they are paying your way.
 
Does this story ring a bell to you? :confused:

I guess that the shooter didn't know that he shouldn't have a gun in church.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,506820,00.html

March 9, 2009
An Illinois pastor was shot and killed, and two parishioners injured after an unknown gunman opened fire during Sunday services at the First Baptist Church in Maryville, Ill.

The gunman walked down the church aisle and briefly spoke to the pastor before shooting during the 8:15 a.m service. Rev. Fred Winters used the Bible he was reading from to shield himself from the first round of bullets being pumped at him, a parishioner told FOX News.

The gunman's .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol jammed after the fourth shot was fired. The suspect then started stabbing himself with a four-inch knife, Ralph Timmins of the Illinois State Police told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

Timmins said the gunman slashed two parishioners when they tried to subdue him.

The newspaper reported late Sunday a source close to the case confirmed the gunman as Terry Joe Sedlacek, 27, who developed mental illness after Lyme disease attacked his brain.

Rev. Winters was shot three times, and was pronounced dead at Anderson Hospital.

The gunman and one stabbing victim, 39-year-old Terry Bullard, underwent surgery at St. Louis University Hospital, spokeswoman Laura Keller said. Bullard was in serious condition, she said.

The other victim, Keith Melton, was treated and released from Gateway Regional Medical Center, spokeswoman Kate Allaria said. A man who answered the phone at a listing for Keith Melton in Troy identified himself as Melton's stepson and said Melton had been stabbed but was going to be fine.

Illinois State Police say they are 99 percent sure they have the identity of the suspect, but have not released his name pending possible charges. They have confirmed he is 27-years-old and from Troy, Ill.

The Rev. Mark Jones, another pastor at First Baptist, said he did not recognize the gunman, who Jones saw briefly before he pulled his weapon. Jones then went into an adjacent room and did not see the shooting, though he heard a sound like miniature fire crackers.

"We have no idea what this guy's motives were," Jones said outside the church. "We don't know if we'll ever know that."

Police said there were about 150 people in the church at the time of the shooting.

Linda Cunningham was sitting near the back of the church when the gunman walked up the aisle. She told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch she figured the man was confused about what time the service started because of daylight savings time.

Cunningham told the Post-Dispatch she, as well as others, didn't recognize the gunman.

Some parishioners believe the gunman used church bulletins to conceal his weapon.

"All you could see was confetti" Cunningham told the Post-Dispatch.

The church has an average attendance of more than 1,200 and was officially organized on March 4, 1945, according to their Web site.

Click here to read more on this story from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

Click here to read more on this story from MyFOX2Now.com in St. Louis.
 
I go to an independant Baptist church. We have a small congregation [about 55 people] and I know that there are three of us that carry in church [and pastor knows it] and out of church. I told my pastor that I would like to see him get his CCP and told him that I would help him financially. He's not against it it's just finding the time to do it. He's a hunter and pro gun by the way. If your folks are against you CCing tell them ok and carry anyway. Good luck.
 
The idea that 'nobody needs a gun in church' is true, but only if you are satisfied with saving only your soul. After all, if you die in a church because you were unable to defend yourself, your eternal soul goes to heaven, right?

On the other hand, I prefer to be able to save my body and mortal life from harm as well. I'm not a churchgoer, but if I was, I would carry.
 
Stats for deadly force incidents in churches/ministries from http://www.carlchinn.com/Church_Security_Concepts.html

Deadly Force Incidents (DFI's) at Faith-Based Organizations in the United States (includes suspicious deaths, suicides and deadly force protection)

DATA CURRENT for time period 1/1/1999 through7/12/2010

NUM %


327 Total Incidents


NUMBER OF DFI's WHERE THE "ATTACK RESULTED IN DEATH OF OTHERS" (ARDO)
161 49.24%

NUMBER OF ARDO's STOPPED IN PROCESS BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
5 3.11%

NUMBER OF ARDO's STOPPED IN PROCESS BY OTHERS
7 4.35%

NUMBER OF ARDO's NOT STOPPED UNTIL THE ATTACKER WAS FINISHED
149 92.55%

327 cases with 161 resulting in death in churches/ministries. Almost 93% went unchecked meaning, of course, that it was the innocent victums who paid the price.

I have pastored the same church for 25 years. CC and OC are welcome in my congregation any time. I carry daily.

Our society is broken. The police can't fix it. The politicians won't fix it. The Military is forbidden to fix it. It is up to us, "We the People."
 
the OP is in north carolina, but i'm not sure where (i'm in charlotte). my buddy is cheap, and he's trying to find the cheapest place to take his CCW course. he found a church in dallas (near gastonia) that actually has a pistol range connected to the church!

not really on topic (a thousand apologies), but this sounds like my kinda church! :D
 
I had an argument the other day with my mom and dad after church last sunday (we attend the same church) about concealed carrying to church. My argument was that when going to and leaving church you may need to protect yourself, possibly (however unlikely) in church as well. They stated that no one needed a gun in church.

Our church is in the middle of a pretty bad area. To be exact, most of the town has random bad areas in it due to old mill houses, apartments, and cheap housing areas springing up where ever they can. I know a few people who live in the area around the church. They abuse government programs, sell drugs, are too lazy to go the bathroom and save it up in bottles, and other random things that are both sick and highly criminal. The other week my car got keyed at church. Overall, I'd feel safer in the area (and alot of other places in town) concealed carrying. But apparantly my parents feel differently.

Our church is a Southern Baptist one, and therefore I'd expect them to be pro gun, but every event or trip they have has a strict no weapons policy. However, I'm not sure how'd they feel about me carrying a handgun during service.

What do you guys think about guns in church?

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I think I would be packing (a firearm), or most likely looking for another church.
 
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I have the same reservation about killing an unsaved person, but I wouldn't hesitate to do so if they were threatening the lives of my wife, my family, or those around me.

Sin may all be equal in God's eyes, but the consequences on Earth vary...some actions have virtually no consequences. Some have deadly consequences. If in position to stop a killer, attempt to stop them I will, regardless of their soul's possible condition.

Needless to say, I carry in church...religiously :D
 
Do what is legal and you feel is necessary and stop talking to people about it.
 
First of all it's concealed carry, so who has to know other than you? Secondly, if God wanted us to leave our guns at home he would have issued everyone a Taurus!
 
It is private property. Ask the Elders for permission; they will make their views known. My Elders have asked me to carry. Half the congregation got licensed together when I renewed mine, and apparently they thought I was the only one that could shoot strait.
 
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