9MM Stopping Power

My experiences with 9mm and hunting animals(not 2 legged ones) is that you want to keep the velocity up with a 9mm. When it is down to 1,000 fps you pretty much just have a small 45 acp or worse a 380. I think the smaller bullets and 1300 fps is one of the main things the luger round has going for it.

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I agree 100%.

From all that I have ever seen and heard, the 9mm just performs better at stopping critters and humans when it's fast and light.

I never go heavier than 124g for 9mm Para.

The new breed of 147 gr JHPs seem to work much better.

That said: I've only trusted the DT Gold Dot since it came out a few years ago.





The hotter ammo doesn't seem to want to run in my RAMI, so
124-147 grain loads seem to work best.

The Double Tap 147 is powerful and accurate from my gun.

after shooting 60 rounds of 147gr winchester supreme elite PDX1 bonded, I switched to it for conceal because it fead well with rapid fire & rite on target double taps,& managed recoil. Doesn't have the two little extra spikes on each talon like the rangers.. My old carry ammo was remington gold sabers 124gr standard pressure non-bonded & I still like'em but can't find them in 124gr +p bonded. Hope my opinion helped

CZF... I heard Double Tap is not using the Gold Dot bullet now.

I do like the 147g FMJ-FP +P from DoubleTap Ammo. I put it in my wife's gun when we go backpacking. The penetration is absurd.

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I have a box of that for trail use as well. Very accurate load, and insanely deep penetration for a 9mm.

There are a lot of good 9mm loads on the market for self defense, but i myself prefer +P+. Essentially it turns your 9mm into a "reduced recoil" .357 magnum.

I've shot both the 147 pdx1 and the 115 Hornady CD in my Ruger SR9C they both are very accurate and reliable. In my Browning BDM the CD's are accurate and reliable also, I havent shot the PDX1's in the BDM yet. With todays new designs I think both will do just as they are advertised I keep a few box's of both on hand . The 147's penetrate much more and expand as advertised. The CD's penetrate less but I think they are also faster expanders than the PDX1. Cant go wrong with either one.

I've read the thing about the 147g also, why not just ask him, he is a member here "Mas" that is. Maybe a PM to see if this is still the case or perhaps the ammo has been changed in some way making it more acceptable? I still have a couple boxes and haven't used it since I read that a few years ago.

115-124...I'm a velocity guy. Ammo's probably made advancements, but the only time "big is best" is in the lumbering .45 in my opinion.

How bout shoot what your are comfortable and accurate with?

Because he was speaking about specific problems with that load Shadow. I had been using them also until I read the article, it was more about the load not working well than anything else.

I've read the thing about the 147g also, why not just ask him, he is a member here "Mas" that is.

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Check the link in post #35-you can read what he thinks 'bout the subject at the link provided.

Because that was from 07, I am thinking he may have changed his opinion, "or not". Based on changes in manufacture of some other point. I get his newsletter also. I just found another article quoting that same info from 02, so it's "old news". I would like an updated viewpoint ,"if there is one" from him, as to weather he still feels the same way.

Right, and with the choice of the modern EFMJ and premium HP in about every flavor of 9mm, I stand with my above comment, that theory with both it's supporters and it's detractors, in the end many say that you should shoot with what you are comfortable and accurate with, with the heavier round being one of there choices or not.

Maybe a heavier bullet will penetrate barriers better, or a rapid expansion 115 is best, IDK, I read about what is available at my local wally world and LGS, then pick the one that functions well with my pistol.

I just picked up some 100 grain powerball ammo for my new 26, I'll let you know how it reacts when I get a chance to shoot on some private property, and blow some stuff to pieces, The speed on the box says 1475 ft per second, this I gotta see. Gunshop guys didn't have the 110, so I figured I would try this one.